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Regular Council Meeting Minutes 12-15-08 Page 8 assumption, whose storm sewer is it? Mr. Metzung said the storm sewer that comes off his property on the front corner of his property. We don't maintain storm sewers on private property. Mr. Nichols said the City Engineer when we tied in our storm sewer designed that area to tie into. Now the storm sewers are on private property. Mr. Metzung said any home that someone would come to us and request help for their storm sewer on their property, we would not be able to help them unless there was some larger easement area where we have storm sewers, obviously we would, but if someone's downspout line that goes out to the main street is blocked or broken or something, we do not maintain those. Council President Buckholtz said typically, for example in Worton Park, the culvert was always the homeowner's responsibility. Mr. Nichols said this isn't the culvert. This is where it ties into the main trunk. Mayor Rinker said one of the things we tried to do because we have had instances over the years where the line between private and public use is sometimes blurred. You are making statements that Mayor Rinker can't refute because he does not know the facts of them. But what he can tell Mr. Nichols is we have with the Infrastructure Committee tried to pool resources between a series of private property owners in the Village when we see there is a problem that is more commonly shared and then we feel it is more appropriate for the Village to have a hand in that because there is a larger good served. Typically though when it's an individual property and a property owner, then we are less likely to do it. We are reluctant to do it for the reasons that Mr. Metzung said. That's pretty standard in most communities. When there are specific individual property issues we typically won't get involved. When there are more commonly shared issues then we will. Mayor Rinker does not know which is which here. Mr. Nichols said, you don't know which is which? Mayor Rinker specified, in your instance. Are you talking about something that's yours or are you contending that it is the Village's responsibility? Why is it the Village's responsibility? Mr. Nichols said the Village has storm sewers. Mayor Rinker explained we have all kinds of common areas and public rights of way, when there is a larger issue involved. But when you are talking about an individual property, that's different. That's true with everyone, with limitations, as Mr. Metzung just described them. Mr. Nichols discussed services of the city such as leaf pick-up or blockage from the street. Mayor Rinker replied that tonight is the first that he heard that leaf pick-up is an issue, at the end of leaf season after all this time, so Mr. Nichols is catching him unaware. Mayor Rinker is not sure why Mr. Nichols has a leaf pick-up problem. Mr. Nichols said he takes his up to the main street. Mayor Rinker explained that what the problem is is that Mr. Nichol's lives on a unique drive. He lives on interlocking drives. When that was constructed, there used to be a riding academy back there. Mr. Nichols said he understands. Mr. Nichols is just talking about the services of the city. Mayor Rinker stated that we don't pick up garbage, for example, back behind somebody's house. We don't go up someone's driveway. You live on a very unique, you don't live on a street, you live on a driveway. You have easement rights over private property. Other people have easement rights over private property. Historically, we were told by some of your neighbors to stay of£ Mr. Nichols said she has moved out. Council President Buckholtz suggested to Mr. Nichols to write down his concerns and submit them to Mrs. Betsa in the Village and we will take a look at the specific instances of what you