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Minutes of the Organizational Meeting of Council Monday, January 14, 2013 Page 4 we see on the list when we go through a Council meeting, the Standing and Special Committees. Then you get something, for example, the Grove Committee. That's really a Mayor's advisory because it's new. That's an example of one that's very informal. Citizen's Advisory is by ordinance. There was something set up a long time ago. That has a stated number. Council President Buckholtz stated, that's one that I thought was a Council Committee. I thought we looked in to it. It's to advise the Mayor. Or is that Activities? Mayor Rinker replied, Activities started under Blase Pietrafese. If it was set up that way structurally, that's probably the reference. Citizen's Advisory was always supposed to be sort'of an ombudsmen. It's to advise the government in general. So, it's not the Mayor, it's the Mayor, Council and basically for people to be sort of an extra committee. Council President Buckholtz stated, the only reason I ask is to get a better understanding. I know from myself and in talking to other people, it may or may not affect whether we get more people. We get people to come. I always say the same thing. I ask them to join a Committee. I just wanted to be cleaz which Committee needs your permission and which needs Council's. Mayor Rinker stated, generally we do it by approbation across the board. Council President Buckholtz stated, I don't think we have ever excluded anybody. Mayor Rinker stated, that's not necessarily true. I think sometimes we have said we've hit a limit. But, that's rare. You are right. Typically we encourage people as much as we can. Ms. Wolgamuth stated, I will resend the memo I prepared which outlines who does the appointments and how long the terms aze. It has all that detail. Mayor Rinker stated, it took a while to put all that together. I commend you to look at it again. We will redistribute it in packets. In fact, Diane will probably get it out in e-mail tomorrow. Ms. Wolgamuth replied, sure. Council President Buckholtz replied, e-mail would be great. Good: Thank you. Council President Buckholtz asked if there were any other matters. There were none.