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Minutes of a Public Hearing ' <br />October 6, 2010 i <br />Page 7 ? <br />perspective what you want is a system made up of representatives in which these representatives <br />can then function and govern the society. So we tend to be kind of split between those two views <br />on government and they carry out all the way to the Supreme Court in how the Supreme Court <br />views issues and government. <br />Governance, and this is what I've been thinking about a lot because I am watching the United <br />States to me lose its ability to govern well and healthcare reform to me was an example of an <br />issue that should have been a really open discussion that involves citizens and instead it became <br />a big clash of interest and it was hard to even know what was being handled in that process. <br />That's not the way to govern. What you want in governance, whether you are a Jeffersonian or <br />Hamiltonian is to create a system where people who aze going to govern can deliberate. That is <br />really key. Voting is not nearly as important I would argue as the ability to deliberate. <br />What's been interesting and was reflected in the comments of the Chair of the Charter Review <br />Commission, is that charter commissions and charter review commissions are an example where <br />people begin to deliberate. To write a charter, for example, takes six months meeting at least <br />once a week for 3-5 hours. People who dori't attend get no sense of talking through all of those <br />issues. That's why we talk about juries. Juries deliberate. They listen to all of the evidence then <br />they go somewhere where they can, by themselves, nobody can interrupt, and they can deliberate <br />over that evidence. It's deliberation that makes the real difference where people can come and <br />talk and discuss and then get a better understanding of what the issue really is, what the problems <br />really are, and what options we have for dealing with those. In contrast, at the national, we get <br />into the situation where 24/7 running campaigns and so one party will meet and the other party <br />refuses to deliberate because it wants to win the next election rather than deliberate. That's a real <br />problem. <br />The second issue that's often misunderstood is compromise. You can't compromise without <br />deliberation. We tend to think of a compromise as, well I'll give you half of what you want and <br />you give me half of what I want. T'hat is some type of a political compromise. But that really <br />doesn't help deal with real issues. The kind of compromise you want is, long ago she was an <br />academic and an activist, Mary Parker Follett talked about constructive compromise, where <br />people deliberate together and pick the best at each argument they hear. They compromise in <br />terms of picking better items than their argument. They don't compromise by splitting the <br />difference or anything else, so sometimes you may have to do that because it's an issue in which <br />you decide is just irreconcilable. Most of the time that's not the case. If people can talk and <br />listen to the different views and have a chance to think about those different views, then they can <br />say, well you know on Issue 1 you actually have a better solution than I do but I still prefer my
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