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? <br />-? --` <br />PLANNING COMMISSION OCTOBER 10, 1989 PAGE 4 <br />pezso.n pointing out that this complex has many more amenities than older <br />ones and that the larger units would accommodate families. Mr. Thomas <br />questioned if there are any guidelines for driveway in reference to <br />school buses.and also if the 424 parking spaces would be sufficient <br />(207 spaces in garages and 217 open spaces). Mr. Stogsdill stated that <br />the 1.5 ratio of spaces to units has proven satisfactory in the past, <br />more spaces could be provided if needed, and that handicapped spaces <br />will be shown as soon as they have designated which suites are to be <br />equippedfor the handicapped. Nir. Thomas further questioned if a sub- <br />division would be necessary. Assistant Law Director Dubelko pointed out <br />that the Council did approve this and it is a matter of record. Mr. <br />Bierman believes that all the noise generating facilities are close to <br />Butternut Ridge (swimming pool, ball courts, etc), pointing out that the <br />court order allowed no structures in the area immediately adjacent to <br />Butternut Ridge, and he.would like the plans redesigned to keep all <br />the recreational facilities away from Butternut Ridge and closer to the <br />apartments and future office complex. Several residents; B. Scheef, <br />C. Crabs, Mrs. Mandalikis, Dr. Davis, B. Shulz and Councilman McKay <br />had many concerns: swimming pool too close to the historic area and <br />could be another distraction to motorists at a dangerous intersection; <br />all recreation.: facilities should be relocated toward the center of the <br />complex; the density of the complex is too great; only one access could <br />prove to be a safety hazard; lakes should not be used for open retention; <br />trash compacter should be further away from residential area; concerned <br />ttiat city will be collecting trash; would like more specific information <br />on buffering, mounding fencing and landscaping (would like increased <br />buffer adjacent to ball courts); concerned because two thirds of the <br />units are one bedroom apartments, could be a lower rent district; <br />eventually there could be access onto Butternut Ridge Road; drainage <br />will be affected;. believes this deVelopment should have own police and <br />fire protection; believes that there,should be one entrance for both <br />the apartments and office complex to eliminate drives onto Great Northern; <br />questioned if Developers Diversif ied had the right-to sell of this <br />portion of the property under the court order; questioned if the swim- <br />ming pool cculd be considered a structure since structures not allowed <br />at that location; and finally requested to see a master plan showing <br />bo.th the apartment and the office complex. Mr. Franz, representing <br />Developers Diversified, read Section 10 of the court order which referred <br />to the portion of property at the intersection and stipulated that it <br />should be. landscaped, remain open, and be used only in conjunction with <br />recreational uses associated with the multi-family use. He maintains <br />that a swimming pool would fall into that category. In respose to the <br />neighbors statements, Mr. Stogsdill responded: buffer areas that are <br />heavily wooded will remain natural, open buffer areas will be mounded <br />and landscaped; a secondary emergency exit could be planned through <br />the office complex, but a single access to the two developments could <br />present security problems and there were no plans for access onto <br />Butternut Ridge. Mr. Cesen advised that the developers could not change <br />the natural flow of drainage. Mr. Gorris questioned if the Commission <br />would be allowed to restrict access so that only one drive would be <br />allowed for both the apartment and the office complex. Mr. Franz stated <br />that the State had designated three access points in that segment of the <br />roadway and one of them was. almost exactly where this drive is planned, <br />they will look at a combined access, but they do not believe that such.an .