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, . , . <br />?. . <br />will be installed, but are hard to see on this plan; and sidewalks will be <br />installed on Great Northern Boulevard if required; that the circles shown on <br />the plan are basically a different type of pavement, something which will <br />stand out for a sense of arrival; and it had not been determined if the <br />fireplaces would be gas or wood burning. It was clarified that there would be <br />60, one bedroom units, and 100 each, two and three bedroom units. The members <br />are concerned about where the wood would be stored. The developers do not <br />believe that would be a problem, many people use packaged logs, but wood could <br />be stored on the porches or in the garages. They further advised that snow and <br />trash removal would be contracted out to a local company, and that trash would <br />be picked up two or three times a week; and that there would be 24 hour access <br />to the recreational facilities, the clubhouse would be open during working <br />hours and probably could be rented (some complexes do not rent them); and.a <br />full time manager and maintenance man usually live on the site. Mr. Lyle, an <br />adjacent neighbor, questioned the rn4nber of entrances; length of construction; <br />if there would be access onto Butternut Ridge during construction; and how <br />this development would impact the adjacent residences, sewers, traffic, etc. <br />He was advised that construction would about 14 to 15 months; tha.t there was <br />no access onto Butternut Ridge planned (if access were offered during <br />construction and the City would approve it, the developers would gladly use <br />it); that the traffic study presented with first proposal ha.d concluded that <br />no traffic signal would be necessary; that no engineering design had been <br />presented as yet, but tmder the previous proposal, there was an tmderstanding <br />that the sewer system might not be adequate and might have to be increased. <br />Mr. Gorris advised that the City would never approve any access onto Butternut <br />Ridge. Mr. Lyle maintained that the proposal is incomplete since the developer <br />had frequently responded that "things have not been sorted through" or things <br />have not been figured out . He urged that all these questions be answered <br />prior to giving any approval. Councilman McKay was advised that they ha.ve one <br />garage space per apartment, with approximately half of these in a garage. He <br />doubts that drivers can enter or exit onto Great Northern Boulevard wi.thout a <br />traffic signal and strongly recommended that the traffic study be re-done; and <br />further, if a traffic signal is not forthcoming now, that some provision be <br />made for the developers to provide a signal if it is determined later that a <br />light is needed. Mr. Thomas agreed pointing out that it was possible that the <br />traffic had changed in the last two yearsa Mr. McKay further stated that he <br />would not be in favor of any above ground retention tml.ess it was under the <br />same specifications as the previous proposal. Councilman Tallon stated that <br />open ditches have caused about 80% of the City's problems, pointing out that <br />it has been City policy to require underground retention. He further <br />questioned the encroachment of the Butternut Ridge lot, since this was to have <br />been left natural, maintaininv that it is not shown properly on the plan. The <br />members studied the original plan and agreed that the recreational area is <br />closer to Butternut Ridge on the new plan. Mr. Gorris stated that the wording <br />of the court order was that this lot was to be used for recreation. Councilman <br />McKay also requested that the forester check the trees again. Mra Crabs, a <br />resident of Butternut Ridge, agreed that it would be almost impossible to exit <br />north to I-480 from this complex. He is also concerned about lighting. Mr. <br />Trevillian responded that lights would be a residential type, directed down. <br />Mr. Daher, a resident, questioned if there would be a walk way for children to <br />get to Butternut Ridge to school. Mr. Trevillian responded that they would <br />have to walk down Great Northern Boulevard. Mr. Skoulis is concerned that this <br />would be too dangerous for school children. The members discussed tYiis issue <br />at length. It was determined that a sidewalk would be required on Great <br />Northern Boulevard, but a walk way could be put on their lot which touches