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fti ?N.li'^ b ? . w street lights. The City does have a concern about damage to Canterbury Road which has recently been repaired, since it will not stand up under tri-axle trucks, concrete trucks, ete. The developer does ha.ve the right.to use the road, but he would have to restore it to its original condition, or else find an alternative route.. This must be addressed by.the developer. The Commission took a five minute recessed at this time. When the meeting resinned, Trir. Gorris recapped that there is concern about the square footage of the triplex tmits, and that Mra Skoulis is concerned about safety which was addressed by Mr. Conway who advised that these un;ts would meet State eodes. Mr. Skoulis responded that it goes beyond that, he pointed out that the Commission wrote a code and now with the first proposal, they are considering changes. Mr. Gorris stated that Mr. Hi11 had explained that, when the codes were drawn up, they -had not anticipated this type of building and considering that they ha.ve never had a district like this before they merely overlooked something. Mr. Skoulis preferred to change the code rather than make these concessions. Mr. Dubelko clarified that the Commission did have the flexibility to recommend to Council that there be a variation to the code. Mr. Skoulis is not willing to accept the triplex concept at all, since it looks more like an apartment or multi-family unit. He does like this concept, but he is not willing to make major changes to the code, and suggested that the Comrission meet with Mr. Bower to come to an agreement. Mr. Orlowski agreed stating that he liked the Golf Homes, but the Vista Hone section appears to be a packing-in of living un;ts, and the stacking concept is not compatible with the eluster home concept. Mr. Skoulis questioned why, since the Golf Home area had side by side units, the developer stated he cannot do that in the Vista Home area. I4r. Bower stated that the density was necessary in this area which is so close to I-480 and the Butternut Ridge-Canterbury Road intersection, and there axe price differences in the two village a-reas, and that a triplex building is allowed in the code. iMr. Orlowski clarified that these mist be attaehed by a conmon wall. PlJr. Bower responded that the code allows the Commission the latitude to recommend approval of variations to Council. Chairman Gorris pointed out that two members wanted the Golf style homes in the Vi,sta Horne area. ?Mr. Skoulis reiterated that this is a major change to the code, but if it the Building Gomissioner had no problems with the design, and this was addressed by the code, he would have no problem with it at a11. He woul:d like to meet with the developer to see if it would be possible to do something similar to the Golf Homes, but he still believed that another entrance should be added to the upstairs uni.ts. It was clarified that even though there are two doors, there is only one conmon stairway. `Mr. Skoulis stated that he would like to make a motion table this proposal tonight tmtil there is time to get together with Mr. Bower to discuss the financial reasons as to why he came up with this particular concept and cannot come up tsi.th another concept and to see whether or not there are some alternatives that we can come up with that tnight make this thing fly, since Mr. Bower does not want to discusa, his finances in an open meeting. Mr. Morgan pointed out that it would have to be in an open meeting, because the Conmuission is governed by the Sunshine Laws. Mr. Bower gave a brief stnrunary of the financial consideration: they purchased 70 acres of land on which they could construct 225 homes with a base price of $200,000.00 for a gross sale of approximately 45 million dollars. The average sale price of the 156 Vista Homes would be $100,000.00 which would be about 15 million dollars. The 110 golf homes, with an average price of $165,000.00 that would add up to approximately 17 to 18 million dollars. The two conbined would be about 32 million dollars. He maintained that they could not reduce the Vista Homes to 75 and still make a profit. He again pointed out that they would be making a bigger profit, if they constructed a single family development, but the intent was to preserve the golf course. Mr. Skoulis maintained that there are other alternatives, such as two or three side by side buildings which would conform to the code. PZr. Bower responded that they did study this idea 5