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can accommodate the 65 foot tractor/trailers even when cars are parked, and the <br />truck dock is not recessed. City Engineer Deichmann advised tha,t the Engineering <br />Department wants to see a traffic study because of concern over the adequacy of <br />Mill and Dover Center Roads and the surrounding areas since this truck traffic <br />will have an impact on the pavement. Mr. Thomas noted that Mill Road is a <br />residential street and is not paved to handle comnercial traffic. Mr. Bingham <br />stated that their truck drivers were trained to use the entrances and exits where <br />the heavy duty pavement was designed. In response to Mra Thomas' questioned about <br />widening and paving Mill Road to handle their truck traffic, Mr. Bingham <br />responded that all tax payers were obligated to do this. Mr. Thoma.s noted that <br />Toys "R" Us absorbed the expense of widening the intersection across from their <br />driveway and also for a traffic light, and asked wha.t portion of the cost of <br />re-working the road to accommodate their trucks would they be willing to assume <br />and if they would consider any cross drives with the adjacent properties. Mro <br />Bingham responded that, if the city assisted with the right of way acquisition, <br />they would be willing to assume a great deal of it and they have discussed an <br />internal drive with McDonald's which would be a mutual benefit, and since there <br />is a utility easement on their property something might be worked out. Mr. <br />Skoulis reminded the Commission that when the car wash was approved; they were <br />only allowed to have an exit to the north. This proposal has an exit drive across <br />from this on Dover Center and questioned if a turn (left) to the north should be <br />allowed here. There is concern about all these exits all of which must be <br />addressed in the traffic study. Mr.. Thomas suggested treating traffic like <br />sewers, if a large development like this is adding cars, it should be required to <br />reduce traffic from the streets. Mr. Newberry also advised they will be <br />eliminating one of the old Lorain Road drives which is too close to McDonald's. <br />Adjacent residents addressed the Commission: Mr. Holter, Porter Road, suggested <br />that the developer give all the adjacent residents a copy of their plans to help <br />work out some of the problems, and also is concerned that truck traffic an Mill <br />Road will be using Porter Road as well as other residential road to get back to <br />Dover Center. He pointed out that McDonalds on Detroit has no entrance, their <br />customers have to use the K-Mart drive. Since there will be truck traffic behind <br />the residential area, he would like a landscaped buffer similar to that behind <br />Hills. He is concerned about storm sewers being overloaded. Mr. Payne, owner of <br />McDonald's, advised that they are working with them regarding cross entrances <br />between the two lots. R. Bugala, who lives off Dover Center Road, is concerned <br />that because of this traffic, there will be traffic lights every 50 yards. Since <br />Mill Road is substandard, he is concerned that the city will have to pay for its <br />re-construction. He pointed out that one of the reasons that the Stearns Road <br />extension was approved was because it would relieve Dover Center traffic and now <br />more traffic will be added. He does not believe that this development would <br />generate much in income taxes to off set the expenses it will incur. Mr. Bingham <br />advised that this store during the first year will probably employ about 200 <br />people and the initial year start up salaries will be about 2.6 million. Mr. <br />Thomas stated that typically when a Wal-Mart comes into a comrrn,nity, other stores <br />go out of business, and the Wal-Mart employees could be an absorption of the <br />employees of these companies. Mrs. Herbster, Porter Road, was advised that the <br />building (without the expansion) would be about 129 feet to the residential line. <br />Mr. Tamas, a resident of Gardinia Drive, questioned why a 121,000 square foot <br />building was needed, if they only anticipated 3,700 cars per day. He questioned <br />if their trucks could make the turn from Mill to Dover Center. He suggested that <br />a more appropriate location would be near the turn pike and believes that the <br />municipal services will out weight any tax gain..Mr. Bingham responded that their <br />research indicates this is the right location for this store; they plan to <br />provide a one stop shopping facility which will reduce traffic; their truck <br />3
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