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He suggested that they get a block that was in the tena cotta color range which would be in the same price range. Mr. Meyer stated that he took 30 colored block samples to the owner, and this is what he had chosen. Mr. Liggett stated that beiges and browns would blend in better than gray. Mr. Zergott asked if it would be possible to get a block to match the brick. Mr. Yager questioned if the city had any prograin to help with improvements for exdsting building. Mr. Conway stated that there has been some discussion, but if there were such a program, it would have to be tlirough the county. Mr. Zergott noted that, in all fairness, the board cannot ask someone to do something they cannot afford and then put them out of business. Mr. Yager clarified that this is why he would turn to the city, but questioned if the contractor or architect had put any effort into the design. Mr. Off stated that the first thing they addressed with the client was the budget, but to say they did not put any effort into the building is an unfair statement. Mr. Yager disagreed and stated that this is what he would consider bare inini?num. Mr. Orr believed that tlus is as good as many other similar facilities. Mr. Liggett agreed and stated that tlus is a background buildiug, he preferred the two levels to the oue level, and he would like to see some different heights put into the existing building instead of a straight level fascia. Mr. Orr agreed that the two differeut colors on the back could be a problem and he would like to find a way to bring them together. He though that perhaps they should cover the brick, possibly with the material that is on the facade. They have tried to address the concems that were mentioned at the last meeting, and they are trying to please both the client and the city. Mr. Liggett suggested using a terra cotta, 4 inch, split face block. He advised Mr. Zergott that using a matching brick would be extremely expensive, but it might be possible to incorporate some brick into the block pattern. Mr. Yager reiterated that the gray looks like a concrete block, but suggested using d.ifferent shades of gray. Mr. Flinn stated that they might get a closer match 'if they painted the brick. This might create a maintenance problem W. Orr asked if they might be more satisfied with the original color scheme. Mr. Liggett stated that could go with either as long as there is some kind of a compliment between everything, perhaps reversing the color tone, the fascia becomes lighter and the masonry becomes darker. Mr. Flinn noted that there is not a lot o£brick, and wondered if Mr. Yager had any experience with staining brick. Mr. Yager had not, but Mr. Liggett had done that, and the owner had a 20 year guarantee; this would be a possibility. Mr. Meyer noted that if they came up with a color scheme that complimented the brick, they would not have to cover it. Mr. Liggett had no problem with that, but warned that the brick could be seen from Barton Road so the two would have to tie together. Mr. Zergott preferred not to have two types of hard masonry. Mr. Off had no problem with covering the brick with the vinyl coated aluminum or some other similar material in a vertical application, and he did_ not think the owner would have a problem with the deeper color gray. Mr. Zergott pomted out that a gas station was converted to a dry cleaning store at the corner of West Park and Lorain Road and they did a good job. They also added some landscaping which helped improve the building. He asked the developers to look at this landscaping and come in with something other than a straight row of alternating trees and plants, which he believed would help break up the large expanse of the rectangular building. The owner is doing the landscaping himselt but Mr. Off does not believe that this would be a problem Mr. Zergott suggested using more evergreen material and explained that they could present a plan later for his review without holding up the building. Regarding the building, Mr. Liggett had no problem with the two heights of the building, and suggested that the new height could be brought into the existing bu.ilding in order to tie it in and keep it from looking like an addition. He agreed this is a mundane, background building, but it is an improvement to what is existing. He asked that they address the brick, either by using a complimentary block, or covering it up, or staining it; he does not want it painted. If they cannot add varying heights, he preferred the revised drawing. Mr. Zergott would like the brick covered to match the siding. Regarding the landscaping, he would rather have more in the front and add paved parking on the side where they show landbanked spaces. Mr. Off believed that this would add to the cost. Mr. Liggett suggested closing two of the curb cuts on Barton Road and add.iug landscaping. Mr. 2