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Mr. Patrick Casey, architect, and Mr. Ron Nelson were present to discuss the proposal. Mr. Nelson currently owns and operates a Laser Wash in Medina. They are proposing to demolish the existing building. The design is a Western Reserve style with brick and asphalt shingles along with aluminum trim and siding. To operate thi-, laser wash drivers, drive into the bay, remain in their vehicle and the laser wash takes approxiinately 4- 5 minutes. There are blowers which dry the car. The City has requested the east and north sides of the property have landscaping and green space. Elevation drawing A1.1, show the roof vents noticeable from the street. Mr. Nelson indicated that they would be more noticeable if they were enclosed. The Commission asked if they could be painted to match the shingles. As deliveries are only once a month for a 5-10 minute timeframe, the applicant felt the delivery area adequate but would dimension it to be 12' x 25'. The delivery truck is similar in size to a UPS truck, and no semi trucks are used. The proposed ground signs require a variance. Mr. Nelson felt their ground signs were similar to other ground signs in the area which do not comply with required setback regulations. Mr. O'Malley advised that abutting property owner's compliance to city codes was irrelevant to the applicants' proposal. Discussion pertaining tb miscellaneous signage not shown or dimensioned on the plans took place. Applicants advised that they would be willing to remove some directional type signs if necessary. Mr. Nelson submitted a note from John Knox Presbyterian Church indicating they had no objection to the proposal. Although codes require hours of operation for a self service carwashes to be 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., they would like to be open 24 hours. It was suggested that statistics show from other locations that very minimal activity occurs after 10:00 p.m. Mr. Nelson questioned what constituted a self serve carwash. It was suggested that as the equipment washes the cars, technically it was not a self service carwash. He suggested that the existing Ultimate Wash carwash did not comply with current operating hours set. Mr. O'Malley advised that it was not the responsibility of Planning Commission to enforce hour of operation regulations. Mr. Bohlmann felt that the noise from the blowers would exit through the northern end of the site, causing a nuisance for the residents of the condos. Mr. Nelson believed that although residents of the condos could see into the laser wash from their porch or balcony, it was an improvement from what was currently in place. Ms. Hoff-Smith agreed with Mr. Bohlmann observation and felt that water and beeping noises from machines would be quite noisy as well. She questioned if vacuums would be at the site and indicated that those would be disruptive as well. She requested a decibel-level study be conducted. Applicants agreed to conduct a decibel- level and provide the commission reports and diagrams as well. Applicants felt that any noises from the site would be below that of the existing street noise. Mr. Bohlmann did not feel that the comparison was an accurate analysis as traffic noise is dictated by the different times of the day. He requested the applicant install a brick wall such as the one located in Westlake rather than the proposed board on board fence which would require maintenance. The applicant advised that they could install the vacuums in the front, but that would put more constraints on the site, reducing the setback and making circulation more difficult. Ms. Wenger advised against including vacuum islands as the plan was already tight. Ms. Hoff-Smith questioned how a vehicle would get out if they needed to turn around. Mr. Casey said they could just drive through the bay without paying. He suggested that originally, an exit drive was proposed on the west side of the site, but landscaping was preferred from 3