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^ one pole sign 57.75 sq ft, two wall signs on the drive-thru canopy 40 sq ft each and one rear wall sign 12 sq ft to identify the rear entrance. The building department issued them permits for a 29 square foot wall sign for the front of the building facing Lorain Road and one to replace the existing pole sign with a new 12 ft by 5 ft 11 inch ground sign. Each of the signs will be constructed of push through Plexiglas letters in aluminum sign cabinets and only the letters will be illuminated at night as the red background is not illuminated. The proposed new front and side wall signs will be 29 sq ft and the rear wall sign would be 10.5 sq ft. The total square footage for the new wall signs will be 113.5 sq ft reducing the sign square footage by 36.25 sq ft from what is currently on the building. Mrs. Sergi questioned what would happen to the existing signage on the existing ATM machine. Mr. Dragon advised that the rear wall (south) sign would have an ATM insert to let patrons know there is an ATM machine. Regarding the ATM machine, at this time there are no plans to do anything to the existing ATM machine. Mrs. Sergi again questioned what the Banks intent was regarding the Republic Bank signs plastered all over the ATM machine. Mr. Dragon said he was told that the ATM machine would be replaced by a different company and he would not be handling that signage. Once the ATM machine is replaced the company installing the ATM would have to apply for any signs they want to put on the machine. He has only been hired to peal the vinyl Republic Bank signage off the current ATM machine. Mr. Burke questioned the Building Commissioner as to whether or not replacing the ATM machine signage with new bank signage requires a permit or would it be grandfathered. Mr. Conway advised that it is not necessarily a grandfathered situation and depending on the size of the signs they could possibly be considered part of the cabinet. However, as nothing has been submitted or discussed he could not specify if a permit would be required or not. Mr. Burke questioned if the applicant could assure the board that the bank would not be placing new signs or returning to the board to seek allowance to have signs on a new ATM machine. Mr. Conway asked what the size of the existing ATM machine signs were. Mr. Dragon said that one is 3 ft by 4 ft 6 inches and the remaining 3 signs on the machine is 20 inch by 30 inches. Mr. Conway stated that a 3 ft by 4 ft 6 inch sign would require a permit. Mrs. Sergi voiced that she was concerned that the owner was possibly going to piecemeal the signage again as was done in the past. Mr. Conway advised that if the new ATM machine has signage which is not allowed then his department would address the matter. Mr. Burke commented that the board was reluctant to address the applicant's request due to the owners past practice of submitting their sign package bit by bit and the board wants assurances that that is not the intent of this tenant. He again questioned if the applicant on behalf of the owners would state for the record that there would be no signs on the new ATM machine. Mr. Dragon said that if the owner wants signs at a later date they are within their right to request more signs if they want and the board should have to address that down the road. Mr. O'Malley advised the board that they were within their right to address all possible signage the applicant may want now or in the future. However, it is noteworthy that the applicants are working towards decreasing the overall square footage of signage on the site. The applicant has received his permits for replacing the non-conforming pole sign with a new ground sign and a wall sign both of which are permitted by code. The applicant is present to explain why the bank requires an additional wall sign on the rear of the building as well as a wall sign on the east canopy. However the board is within their right to focus on the total signage for the entire site. The board is also within their right to request a statement from the applicant's representative that no further signs would be sought or requested. Furthermore the board if it chooses can impose conditions upon any additional signage. Mrs. Diver voiced that she was not comfortable the way the request stands. She feels that her only two options are to turn down what is being requested now and to be prepared when the applicant returns to request signage on the ATM machine. Or possibly grant the request tonight and deny any possible future requests due to the owner's past practices. 3