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. , .-1. the retail side if they are not a retail business. Mr. Khouri said the tenant wants it that way and the traffic on Dover trying to get in and out at 5:00 p.m. is a problem. Mr. Yager asked what they see as their front door. Mr. Davison said the front door was to be toward Water Tower Square. There was discussion about ingress and egress at Water Tower Square. Ms. Schulz said she does not think they need the front door for their employees. It is your presence and what you are trying to reflect to the community, clients, and the street that is important. Employees can go in the back door if that works with what the interior design needs to be. Mr. Davison said they have worked very closely with the tenant coming in on how he wants it set up. He pointed out the areas that are corporate and the areas where the public would be coming in. He also pointed out the training facility. He said people coming for training would come in the back; the Dover Center side. Mr. Khouri asked if they could put more windows in the back with a canopy over the doors. Mr. Zergott said that may be a start but they are also trying to get rid of the box. Mrs. Nader asked if they could make it a more rectangular shape and have parking on the corner. Ms. Schulz said if it's a training center, it has to be more prominent on the Dover side so that people can find it. Mr. Yager said there is door from the smoking room out and a door from the sales room, which would suggest there could be over 50 people in that meeting room. He said they can make an assumption that people will be out on Dover smoking. Mr. Davison said the proposed changes would really cause problems. They were told to work within the boundaries and work with the setbacks. Mr. Ya;er said he knows they have gone to great lengths to get through the boards. He said the focus of the Architectural Review Board is the aesthetic improvement of our city and when you have the opportunity to do something in a critical location, you jump at it. Mr. Khouri referred to the plans and they discussed the smoking issues. Mr. Khouri said there will not be people smoking outside. The board members disagreed with him. Mr. Yager said he understands the tenant likes the plan but he is asking them to reconsider the site plan. He said if that is the buildina they want and the aesthetics they want, just turn the building. Mr. Davison said there would be a problem with doing that at the site. Ms. McKinniss pointed out they reviewed a number of options and this is the one that has the most promise. Ms. Schulz suggested they just turn it 180 degrees. She said it wouldn't change the building and the entrance would be on Dover Center. Mr. Yager pointed out the parking would remain the same, and the address would remain the same. Mr. Khouri said he does not believe the tenant will like it. Ms. Schulz indicated they are doing this for the best use of the site and the board 'is trying to work with thern. Mr. Khouri said what the owner is proposing is an improvement from what is there now. Ms. Schulz agreed with that. Mr. Khouri said they can understand more windows in the back and making it more prominent but this is what the tenant wants. His job is to please the tenant. He added the tenant wants more space. Mr. Yager asked if their goal is to get more space and be inore visible. NLr. Khouri indicated that was correct and they want to be accessible. Mr. Yager said either way the site plan will work, regardless of where the front entrance is. He said if you turn the building 180 dearees, it is the same exact building. We know it can fit. Mr. Davison said they would not have parking in front. Mr. Yager pointed out they could have parking. They referred to the plan. Mr. Davison said they would be over the property line if they rotatecl the building. Mr. Yager asked if it is a property line that the city has or one that Carnegie set up. He said they are purchasing property from Heller's and he asked if it is then part of the overall site for Carnegie. Mr. Khouri said it is a different entity. Mr. Yager disagreed because there is just parking on two properties. Mr. Khouri explained they gave the other company an easement. Mr. Yager said they are staying on the property with the coordination of the owner directly to the west. He indicated what he is saying is, if they take the plan and rotate it around, they will have the exact same physical size, a more prominent view on Dover Center, and they can appease the tenant, appease the Architectural Review Board and the city. Mr. Khouri pointed out it may not please the tenant. Mr. Yager said the tenant is not present. Mr. Khouri said he represents the tenant. Ms. Schulz said that as a board they cannot understand the tenant's perspective without hearing his arguments, and that is what Mr. Khouri is basing his position on and that is why it is not changing at all. The board does not know what other options have been presented to the tenant so it is hard to make a fully engaged decision. Mr. Davison said they have access to more parking as the plan is now. They just can't get parking up front. Mr. Yager asked how many visitors 4