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32 parking spaces. He is concerned about overflow parking. Ms. Obert said the parking has to do with their parcel being considered part of the entire shopping center. If their parcel is considered separately, they would meet parking requirements for a restaurant of their size. Mr. Conway said the board can discuss the numbers that are on the table tonight but if they want different numbers he suggests tabling it. Mr. O'Malley said there were previous variances granted on lot coverage and on parking. The board should take that into consideration as well. It is not just 32 spaces. He said in addition to 60 previous spaces short, they are adding another 32 for a total of 92 spaces short. Mr. Conway said there were several things that have occurred since the first variance was granted. Mr. Todaro explained what is included in their parking counts. Mr. Wilson said their site is currently a Park-N-Ride lot that will be moving. Mr. O'Malley said it has already moved. Ms. Obert and Mr. Wilson reviewed their requests and showed the board members renderings of the signage. Mr. Maloney asked about the variance for more signage than permitted. Ms. Obert said they had to consolidate some of the signage in order to reduce the canopy sign. They compromised with the city but in doing that, they have to include the whole sign instead of just the letters. She added they originally had a wall sign but removed it as part of the variance reduction and now they are requesting a ground sign. It would be the only signage along the shopping center road. Ms. Obert mentioned there was a variance that was missed initially and she explained it deals with the triangle created 35 ft. back from the intersection. Their ground sign would be within the triangle. Mr. Conway asked if they can slide it out of the triangle. Ms. Obert indicated they cannot. Mr. Conway said his concern is visibility and there should be enough visibility for people coming around the bend. He said if someone tries to turn left out of that driveway, there will be some issues and potentially a lawsuit. They should think about it. Mr. Wilson discussed the layout with Mr. Conway while the board members conferred. Mr. Conway said he does not have a particular safety concern with the location of the sign. He does not have a particular problem with the development. He requested the developer be present because the board needs to address the overall situation. He asked if they need to have the developer come back and present a future expansion plan or are they done. This puts the board in an adverse position because they are dealing with an individual person. He does not believe they should approve any further development on this site unless a developer presents a proposal to the board for overall development on the site. Mr. Maloney asked about the size of tracker trailers bringing food onto the site. Ms. Obert reviewed the loading zone. Mr. Wilson indicated they will not receive seini loads because they do short cycle deliveries. They get deliveries about every 2 days. Mrs. Sergi asked if the restaurants all look the same. Mr. Wilson explained none of their facilities are identical. They are going with a corporate design that they feel best suits the lot. Mrs. Sergi asked if they considered having a flat sign on the front which would have eliminated a few variances. Mr. Wilson replied the signage relates to the building design. Ms. Obert indicated the angles have been studied and this is the building Chipotle's felt best addresses the site and the corner element of the site. Mr. O'Malley said it appropriate that the board be enlightened that at the side bar review with Mr. Conway it was disclosed that the additional ground sign that is proposed, but not shown in a rendering, is 9 ft. tall. It is located in with landscaping and near the trash receptacle. Mr. Maloney said it would be variance #6 and it should indicate the sign is approximately 9 ft. tall and is blended in with the landscaping. Mr. O'Malley said the variance is needed because there is a Developers Diversified ground sign for the entire shopping mall not too far from the location of the proposed restaurant. The board is familiar with this issue as it is very common to have the shopping center development come in and have a menu board sign and each individual tenant comes in and wants its own monument sign. Mr. Kremzar asked if they pass the variance for 32 parking spaces would they be changing the ratio again. Mr. Conway said it would be changing it. They would be granting a variance to the ratio they established previously. Ms. Obert said they are keeping it as stated in their request. Mr. Maloney confirmed to the developer that it is 92 parking spaces eliminated. Mr. Todaro indicated that is correct based on the calculations before them. Mr. Maloney said in looking at development they may be confronted with, down the road, they should come in with some type of plan for the other property. Mr. Todaro said he 6