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. ? changes. Mr. O'Malley said that it can be made as a comment in general and the board would recommend approval of this as a standard of something the Planning Commission has often had to do battle over without the aid of codified requirements. Mr. Koeth asked Mr. Rymarczyk if he thinks it all looks compatible to what the building department is trying to do and what the Planning Commission is trying to accomplish. Mr. Rymarczyk said it is compatible with one exception. The changing of the mounting height of a light fixture will vary somewhat more than what the Planning Commission had in the past. The board was limiting it to the height of the building with 25 ft. being the maximum height. In the ordinance, you can go higher based on being further away from the property line. They are talking about shielding the lights too. He said overall it is compatible. Mr. Koeth asked if the board can still recommend zero at the lot line. Mr. Rymarczyk said he believes they can. Mr. O'Malley said they could make a recommendation to Council that they have historically required zero foot candles at the lot line and if this chapter of the code is not going to maintain that requirement, the board would ask to have it inserted. They can also comment that they are grateful for codified standards, but would like to maintain some discretionary authority wherever possible to make recommendations. He said the board should make a recommendation to Council that the ordinance be approved and mention the board's general comments regarding zero at the lot line and maintaining some broad authority that is discretionary on the part of the Planning Commission. Mr. Spalding said there could be a guideline indicating the standards are subject to Planning Commission review. There was further discussion about foot-candles and various sites in the city. Commissioners need to review Law Director Dubelko's letter dated October 20, 2002 regarding Planning and Economic Development - 2004 Master Plan. Mr. Koeth pointed out the letter went to the Mayor and it was discussed in terms of going forward with the master plan. He thinks it would be good to meet with the Mayor and give suggestions and make recommendations. Mrs. O'Rourke asked if this stems from the new Crocker Rd. and the development park out that way. Mr. Koeth said that is correct and there were other things mentioned in the State of the City address that need to be talked about. Mr. O'Malley said the law director is making the suggestion that the time to get considered for the budget for next year is now. Mr. Koeth said that given the city's financial situation, the board will have to make a good case for why it needs money. That could be part of talking with the Mayor. Mrs. Hoff-Smith asked how costly it is to have consultation on a master plan. Mr. O'Malley indicated it depends on how involved it is. NIr. Koeth said they need to go forward given the consideration of what they have going. They cannot make recommendations unless they have some sound judgement as to what they want to do down the road. He said having Mr. Smerigan come in was a very good thing. The board needs something like that. W. O'Malley said the law director is concerned about looking ahead and addressing the issue of the master plan. Mr. Spalding said the last time they reviewed it was 2000. Mrs. O'Rourke said it was submitted to Council and she does not believe it was approved. Mr. O'Malley said they are still working from the 1992 master plan. He believes Council did approved it. W. Koeth said with the Planning Commission recommendation regarding the west end of town, Council was cautious with accepting that recommendation. The Mayor then made the recommendation that went along with the Planning Commission. He said they all need to get on the same page and convince Council that is the direction they want to go. Mrs. Hoff-Smith commented on the Crocker-Stearns project changing the dynamic of the city. The Planning Commission needs to be a part of that. Mr. Koeth said he has heard that for 7 years. Mr. O'Malley said the Planning Commission has two functions; the individual sites that come through and then, equally important but not often given enough attention, is the job to look at the zoning map and the master plan. Mr. Koeth said he is concerned Council may not go along with the Commission after spending a good amount of money on the master plan. Mr. O'Malley said he understand that following the 1992 master plan there were a number of initiations 6