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not connect to the existing patio or concrete and the landscaping off to the left-hand side. He <br />understands there are measurement issues, but on the issue of why the steps are there, he would Iike <br />the board to know they tried to rebuild the deck that was there. It was so rotted and probably more <br />dangerous than anything else, they tore it off, started over, and built this deck. The width of the <br />steps is designed according to where the third post is. He referred to the photos. The third post is <br />on the left by the edae of the house. The width was aoverned by the edge of the house. The steps <br />on the right hand side go right up to the edge of the house. On the left-hand side they are governed <br />by the placement of that third post which was pre-existing. The concrete and the post in the photos <br />were pre-existing. There is a small cement pad at the bottom of the steps which was added. Mr. <br />Puzzitiello expressed concern about coming down the steps at night with no light. Mr. Gareau <br />indicated he has been down the steps at night and he does not see it as a problem. He said there are <br />two railings on it. He said the front of the house has windows that don't loan themselves to getting <br />out of the house. He referred to photo "D" and "C" and pointed out the rooms. Mr. Puzzitiello said <br />there are three things wrong with the steps. He said the treads are not the right size, the width is not <br />the right size and the height is not right. Mr. Conway said they look nice and the top looks good but <br />they have a problem with the steps. Mr. Puzzitiello said they could be rebuilt without doing too <br />much damage to anything else. Chairman Puzzitiello said the steps are all right where they are but <br />they should be 36". He could adjust the height without a problem as well. Mr. Gareau said 36" wide <br />would put it into the side yard. It would be hemmed in with a post on one side and it would exceed <br />the edge of the house. Mr. Puzzitiello said it looks like he has space between the stairs and the end <br />of the house. Mr. Conway said there is space and even if he had to put an additional post up on the <br />side, he could do it. Mr. Gareau asked if that would require a side yard variance. Mr. Puzzitiello <br />said it would not. 1VIr. Rymarczyk said he would have to confirm that. He does not believe one <br />would be. Mr. Klesta asked about the scale drawing and wondered if it was for the patio or if it was <br />for an addition. Mr. Gareau approached the board members and reviewed the drawing. Mr. Althen <br />asked if he got a permit for the deck itself. Mr. Gareau said he applied for a permit after the deck <br />had been built. He spoke with the building department about it and they were aware of the situation. <br />He informed the board that he did not render the drawing they have. He did do a free-hand slcetch <br />that shows the rough design. Mr. Althen aslced if it was drawn after the deck was constructed or if it <br />was done to get the pennit. Mr. Gareau indicated it was done to get the permit. He found out after <br />the fact there was a problem. It wasn't designed with the intent of doing it in violation. Mr. Conway <br />asked if it was an afterthought to do the steps or if they were originally included in the plan. Mr. <br />Gareau said it was debated but then deterinined they could not put steps to the left based on the <br />location of the window. He referred to the picture labeled "A" and "E" and said there is a raised <br />wall, a retaining wall there made out of ties so there really wasn't anywhere to put thein unless you <br />brought them out and parked them out in the middle of the grass and then reconfigured the <br />landscaping and walkway. He said he really didn't want to get into that since he was really going to <br />use it as a means of egress. Mr. Puzzitiello asked for a motion. Mr. Althen said they need to be <br />replaced mainly because of the different heights and rises. He said it looks like a ladder and not a set <br />of steps. Mr. Klesta indicated he would abstain in the voting since he is a neighbor to Mr. Gareau. <br />Mr. Gareau said he is at a point where he would probably remove the steps altogether and he doesn't <br />tlunk he would rebuild them. The idea of moving it around and reconfiguring the steps makes him <br />lean toward removing them altogether until a later date. He said if he modified the rise it would <br />probably put the steps out at another 3-4 feet. Mr. Conway said all he would have to do is widen <br />them to 36". Mr. Klesta said there is a 3 1/2" rise on the bottom and if he compensated that with <br />the 8 3/4" and the 9" rises all the way up, he could come close to a 7, 7 1/4" perfect rise. Mr. <br />Gareau asked what he would have to do with respect to the width of the step. Mr. Puzzitiello said
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