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? , • <br />parcel in the Landinarks district. This requires Landmarks involvement with anything that is <br />proposed or requested. Landmarks must be involved with anything relating to the building at the <br />corner of Porter and Lorain Road, which is occupied by a florist shop. The applicants need to make a <br />petition to the landmarks commission. The applicant needs to proceed to Landmarks and it would be <br />premature to address the details proposed for the new parcels until Landmarks renders a decision. <br />The Planning Commission can address previous approved development plans as it was modified by <br />the demolition of the auto body shop. The existing condition is a hole in the ground with orange <br />barrels around it. Progress on the existing approved modified development can continue while the <br />other matter is before landmarks. However, the extensive variances being contemplated could <br />perhaps be resolved without variances being necessary i.e. the demolition of the buildings could <br />allow the driveway to be relocated to meet current codes. There are ways to resolve the variances <br />being requested. <br />Board Members Comments: <br />1VIr. Spalding indicated that based on Mr. O'Malley's comments the new proposal should go to <br />landmarks and the existing issue reviewed with the Engineering Department. Mr. Suhayda <br />remarked that four years ago they met with landmarks and it was decided this area was not in the <br />historical district. Mr. Spalding clarified that the commission is referring to the corner lot only. He <br />reminded the applicant that Mr. O'Malley was advising them that they must go before Landmarks <br />Commission. Mr. Farrell suggested that if the commission is referring to the floral shop or doctor's <br />office they contacted the Landmark Commission and was provided a list of the buildings that are <br />preserved in the historic district. Neither the floral shop nor the doctor office is on the list, therefore <br />we do not think we need to return for their approval for the development of the property. The <br />landscaping on Porter Road with respect to the mounds on Dewey Road is the residents west to this <br />property wanted the height increased so it does not encroach upon their property. The other <br />neighbors are commercial so mounds are not needed on Porter Road. Mr. Spalding clarified that <br />the board was referring to the residential property to the north to add mounds and fencing. Mr. <br />Farrell suggested that the homeowner only wants an 8-foot high fence. Mrs. O'Rourke pointed out <br />that the Chairman of Landmarks was present and perhaps he could address the issue. <br />Landmark Chairman's comments: <br />Mr. Lang recalled that within the past few months an informal request was made of Landmarks as <br />to whether or not the floral shop was in fact in the historical district. His reply was that their <br />research from the maps they have available does in fact show the floral shop in the historical district. <br />Landmarks met with Halleen a few years ago when he first started his project and he does not <br />remember the final determination. It is the understanding of Landmarks that the floral shop is in <br />deed in the historical district. The applicants do in fact need to go before the Landmarks <br />Commission. Mr. O'Malley indicated that the board members had before them the maps that Mr. <br />Lang referred to and it clearly shows the floral shop in the historical districts. Mr. Hreha suggested <br />making a formal request of the Landmarks as to whether or not the floral shop is or is not in the <br />historical district instead of everyone guessing. Mr. Farrell reiterated that the list in his possession <br />does not list the doctor's office or the floral shop as a historical structure. Mr. O'Malley informed <br />everyone that there is a difference between the historical district and the designation of a specific <br />landmark. The list Mr. Farrell has may not include the floral shop, but the floral shop is still in the <br />historical district. <br />W. Spalding motioned to tab9e Halleen KIA of 27726 Lorain Road PP# 832-10-025, 232-10- <br />024, and 232-10-023 until the developer has met with LandYnarks to determine their role <br />relative to this parcel. <br />After the framing of the motion, further discussion took place: <br />Mr. Farrell requested to be referred to Board of Zoning Appeals to address their variances. Mr. <br />Spalding commented that until the applicant meets with Landmarks it would be premature to go to <br />4
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