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CIVIL SERVICE MEETING - JUNE 1988 <br />we cross over into these classified positions as hostlers and that by <br />crossing over into these classified sectors do you still feel that we <br />should not be considered classified? Mr. Noble: Asked for an example - <br />how do you crossover? Mr. Dagy: Driving a coach. Mr. Noble asked did <br />he have.the responsibility of driving passengers and Mr. Dagy answered <br />no, however he did have the responsibility of driving a one hundred and <br />forty thousand dollar coach. Mr. Noble felt there was an assimilation <br />between a one hundred forty dollar coach and a one hundred forty <br />thousand dollar backhoe. Mr. Livingston stated that if the employee ds <br />working on Saturday and the dispatcher has gone home they are required, <br />if there.is a problem to either call management, call traffic to get a <br />coach out, if there is a breakdown, or to make decisions. He is <br />responsible for the garage, locking it up, and he generally has the <br />responsibility for the full garage in the evening. Mr. Noble related <br />that he has two laborers that are on duty, unsupervised, every winter <br />night and they have the responsibility to salt or unsalt the streets," <br />secure the garage and they are unclassified laborers. If they make the <br />wrong decision the buck stops somewhere and it always stops at his <br />office. Nevertheless, they are expected to make that decision. We did <br />not say that they were unclassified according to civil service, civil <br />service guidelines did that. We did not say that this position is <br />unclassified - again, I go back to a letter that.in all my knowledge and <br />experience in.civil service completely goes against the State of Ohio <br />civil service program and the letter predicated the whole problem. <br />Perhaps it generated all of the work you people -are involved in right <br />now. Much discussion followed between the employee group and Mr. Noble <br />along with the commissioners on the duties performed by the servicemen. <br />Mr. Wendt stated that the commission had retracted the letter after it <br />came to the attention of the members. He stated the commission had gone <br />to great lengths to straighten out the civil service list since that <br />time and that prior to this we were not working with a correct and up- <br />to-date list. We were involved with all the city directors and had a <br />meeting with the mayor until gradually we achieved a list we could work <br />with. We did unclassify the laborer position. We had a meeting of city <br />personnel expressly to declare classified/unclassified positions, with.a <br />discussion on layoff procedures and reduction in force. Proceeding Mr. <br />Noble stated that reduction in force was by classification based on <br />seniority. First reductions would be part-time employees and then it <br />would start at the bottom of the'list with a balanced over-all reduction <br />in force throughout the whole city. lir. Noble also stated he could <br />appreciate the employee group wanting security as in his job he would <br />like some form of security, but he doesn't have that, likewise the men <br />in the Service -Department do not have job security, all they have is <br />their Union and your employe group have their Association, which is <br />recognized as a Union. yr. Noble stated he could not see how this <br />particular issue could be compared to other positions that exist in the <br />