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suggestions and opinions. Rule III: Section 2 (c ): Firefighter Promotions: Chief <br />Bak indicated this section concerns promotional more so than entry level. There is <br />a risk that an entry level can advance up to Captain if there aren't two eligible <br />candidates willing to apply for the position. Mr. Thomay questioned why this <br />wasn't consistent with the Police Department having this clause as well. Chief Bak <br />indicated it might be more prominent in the Fire Department. Mr. Thomay and <br />Ms. Zolar indicated there needs to be consistency between the two departments. <br />Mr. Thomay suggested checking with Chief Ruple for his opinion. Rule III: <br />Section 7: Tie Score Promotional: Mr. Farrell indicated this section is again where <br />the Chiefs should be involved. Chief Bak questioned if the total score included <br />total score from exam, seniority and efficiency score. He indicated that the Police <br />have a different efficiency rating than the fire dept. Mr. Thomay indicated that the <br />section should eliminate "same mark" to read "the same total score." Chief Bak <br />suggested making the tiebreaker the hire date, since the seniority points are based <br />on "yearly" service, and not broken down by the month. Mr. Thomay indicated it <br />should possibly read "days of service shall be the determining factor, should the <br />two had been hired on the same day, the coin toss would be the determining <br />factor." Rule III: Section 8 (d) Extra Credit for Seniority - Mr. Thomay <br />questioned why the scale ends at 14 years and not more. Chief Bak indicated that <br />10 points is the highest amount of seniority points a candidate can receive, so they <br />didn't go higher in years. The Board agreed to leave this section alone. Rule III: <br />Section 8 (c ): Evaluation point credit: Chief Bak reviewed the fire departments <br />suggestion for change of this section. Instead of an applicant being evaluated for <br />over the past six months, they would like to see it be 3 years. He indicated that <br />evaluations aren't done every six months and each Captain may evaluate differently <br />due to the different shifts. This way over 3 years, a fair evaluation is much more <br />obtainable. Mr. Thomay suggested the section read "an average over the last three <br />years" for evaluations. Mr. Thomay indicated in this section it reads "his/her <br />supervisor" when there are actually three supervisors over time that evaluate. The <br />Board agreed with Chief Bak's suggestion. Rule III: Section 8 (e) needs to be <br />discussed with Chief Ruple to see if the figures need to be adjusted due to the <br />latest contracts. Rule III: Section 8 -ft. Chief Bak suggests changing the present <br />figures in the handbook to his suggestions since the suggestions he has listed are <br />what the fire department is presently using due to the contract. The new rate is to <br />ensure a more sure rating. The Board was in accordance with Chief Bak's <br />suggestion. Mr. Thomay indicated the Board is trying to be uniform between the <br />two departments. Mr. Thomay indicated he is going to pull out old notes from last <br />year. Mr.Thomay reviewed seniority points obtainable from other municipalities. <br />It was decided seniority points would be from North Olmsted only. Mr. Farrell <br />questioned if there could be seniority points for living and working in North <br />Olmsted. Mr. Thomay indicated "no." Mr. Thomay indicated he would like to see <br />that done. Mr. Farrell indicated he would check out a residency requirement. Mr. <br />Thomay would like to talk to Chief Ruple before coming to any final decision on <br />any of the Rules discussed at this meeting. <br />