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receive a report and then weed out poor performers based on that information. They would not share <br />the actual data but would generate reports if requested. This gives them the information they need to <br />create a model. Mrs. Giesser asked if they can do the other part of the evaluation process without a <br />model. Mr. Kapusinski indicated they can go ahead without a model because of the other information <br />they can gather. He pointed out that they use the interview, the Personal Profile, the Personality Index, <br />the two tests on ability, and the Competency Index. If information does not match, they can figure out <br />what is going on. If they have any doubts, they err on the side of being conservative. Mrs. Giesser <br />asked if they have typical profiles of police and fire that aren't really dependent on North Olmsted. Mr. <br />Kapusinski indicated if they do not do a model and North Olmsted requested them to do the testing, <br />they would use their general base line information. They typically work in teamsand if they are <br />testing; 6-8 people, for example, they split it between 2, 3 or 4 people and then evaluate those <br />candidates. They review all of the information. They have dealt with enough departments to know <br />what makes an effective officer. He mentioned that many communities concentrate more now on <br />customer service so they look for that quality in a candidate. Mr. Carobine pointed out that that is how <br />a model is useful because it gives them the culture within a city and what differences exist. It tailors <br />the testing to an organization. Mr. Thomay commented that North Olmsted is probably very similar to <br />Strongsville. Mr. Kapusinski said if they did nothing else, they would want to talk with the chiefs. <br />They have knowledge of what works and what doesn't seem to work. Mr. Kapusinski handed out a <br />sample report of what they generate. It is a brief report that clearly shows if something is an asset or a <br />liability. There is no psychological jargon. Mrs. Giesser asked if this is the report the board would <br />receive if they sent a candidate for evaluation. Mr. Kapusinski responded that it is the report that <br />would be generated. It is done within 48 business hours. He added they can fax, e-mail, or send <br />reports through the regular mail. He said e-mail is extremely convenient for everyone. They would <br />provide directions to their office in Twinsburg. They usually start candidates out at 9:00 am or at 1:00 <br />p.m. and can see as many as 4 candidates per day. They can be very .flexible with candidates and <br />schedules. If candidates are going to be set up for internet testing, they will handle it. The civil <br />service office can set up appointments or it can be set up that the candidates make the arrangements. <br />They will work with us so that we can meet our deadlines and they can do what they need to. They try <br />to conduct tests during business hours. Mrs. Giesser inquired about the background of the PRADCO <br />representatives. Mr. Kapusinski indicated his background is in experimental developmental <br />psychology/human development. Mr. Carobine has a Masters in industrial organizational psychology. <br />Mr. Kapusinski mentioned that all their co-workers have Masters or Ph.D's. He mentioned that with <br />the internet and telephone they are able to save companies a great deal of money because they do not <br />have t.o fly someone into town. He added that for local communities, the drive across town is <br />convenient. Mr. Kapusinski said he would welcome the chance to work with the city and they are <br />open to trying something on a trial basis as well. Mr. Thomay pointed out that any decision would be <br />made in conjunction with the chiefs. He said the policy here requires that the commission provide a <br />list of five candidates to the police and fire department. When an opening is available, they must <br />choose from that list. If a candidate is passed over, he/she receives a notice. _ If someone is passed over <br />three lames, his or her name is removed from the list. Mr. Thomay said one problem is there are <br />people: who take tests in a dozen different cities in hopes they can get on one of the forces. We may <br />lose people to other towns. He added that our lists are good for two years. Mr. Kapusinski indicated <br />their evaluations are good for about two years as well. He said they do conduct promotional tests, <br />although not for the technical aspects. The process is the same as what they have explained except <br />they do a more extensive interview and include leadership tests. Mrs. Martin asked if they do any <br />agility testing for police and fire before going into the psychological profile. Mr. Thomay indicated <br />that is done before proceeding. We take the top candidates. For example, if 80 people passed, we <br />would take 25 and test agility and add the scores to the written portion. That is how they come up with <br />the top five and we then would proceed with the background check and other testing. We do an <br />independent evaluation. Mr. Kapusinski said they sometimes have communities that come to them <br />with concerns about the lie detector. It may not be enough to knock someone out of the process but <br />there are issues. He likes to know about that kind of thing in advance because they can address that <br />