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<br />City of North Olmsted <br />City (:nuncil Meeting <br />Michael Ubaldi <br />March 22, 2011 <br />Page 69 <br />1 their rules, completely disregard state law <br />2 and write unique rules. They've chosen to <br />3 follow state law in many respects. <br />4 MR. MAHONEY: Okay. Thank you. <br />s No further questions, Mr. President. Thank <br />s you. <br />~ MR. LIMPERT: Councilman Schumann, <br />a do you have questions? <br />s MR. SCHUMANN: Just a short one. <br />to Mr. O'Malley, you stated that in <br />11 your role as counsel to boards and <br />12 commissions that you -- it was not unusual <br />13 for the chair or the commission to not <br />14 agree with your opinion and take other <br />is action. <br />is Would you say that when you would <br />17 give procedural advice or a directive you <br />18 would, they would -- would you say that it <br />is was not unusual for them to not take your <br />zo advice in that situation? <br />zl THE WITNESS: When it comes to <br />2z procedure it's generally --the boards and <br />2s commissions, the planning commission, the <br />z4 BZA, will generally follow the advice <br />25 that's given. And when I say that advice <br />Page 70 <br />1 is take it or leave it, I would, talking <br />2 generally, I might suggest that the body <br />s could consider certain options, but it was <br />a entirely within their power to select <br />s between them. <br />s And it's more rare where a body is <br />~ more or less warned that they really ought <br />a not travel down that road, that they don't <br />s have jurisdiction or authority to proceed, <br />to that kind of advice is generally not <br />11 disregarded. <br />12 MR. LIMPERT: Are there any other <br />13 questions by members of council? Seeing <br />14 none -- <br />ls MR. CARSON: Mr. President, I just <br />is have a couple very quick questions. <br />17 - - - - <br />18 CONTINUED RECROSS-EXAMINATION OF BRYAN O'MALLEY <br />19 BY MR. CARSON: <br />zo O. Mr. O'Malley, you testified that the, whenever a <br />21 vacancy occurs, essentially means that there has <br />22 to be a triggering event, correct? <br />23 A. Sure, yes. <br />24 Q. You knew that Chief Wozniak was retiring in <br />z5 early, in April or early May as of the February <br />Page 71 <br />1 28th meeting, correct? <br />z A. It had been reported in the newspaper. It had <br />3 been generally forecast or predicted. <br />4 Q. He said he was retiring, correct? <br />s A. I didn't talk to him directly, but that was the <br />s news. <br />~ Q. Going to Rule 8, (b)(ii), I'm just going to read <br />s it over here. It says, "If there is no valid <br />s eligible list, the Commission shall conduct a <br />to test for a new eligible list." <br />11 Did I read that correctly? <br />12 A. You did. <br />13 O. Was there a valid eligible list on February 28th? <br />14 A. Well, there's never a valid eligible list for a <br />15 police chief. You, that's a one shot deal. <br />is Q. Really? I know other cities have valid eligible <br />17 lists for police chief or fire chief. <br />is It's your position that there's never been a <br />is valid eligible list? <br />20 A. Well, 1 might be incorrect. <br />21 Q. Okay. Well, setting that aside, it's your <br />22 testimony that there was no valid eligible list <br />23 for police chief? <br />z4 A. I don't believe there ever was. <br />25 Q. Okay. So does that mean, and the rule says, "If <br />Page 72 <br />1 there is no valid eligible list, the Commission <br />2 shall conduct a test for a new eligible list," <br />3 correct? <br />4 A. The rule says when that "vacancy occurs, the <br />5 appointing authority shall notify the Civil <br />s Service Commission." So absent a vacancy and <br />~ absent notice from the appointing authority, then <br />a the Commission doesn't have authority to proceed <br />s sua sponte, on its own accord, in response to a <br />to newspaper article or whenever it deems a <br />11 promotional exam to be necessary or appropriate. <br />12 O. Okay. And your legal authority for that <br />13 proposition is where in the charter? <br />14 A. It's in, it's in the -- well, the charter -- <br />15 Q. Or the Ohio Revised Code? <br />16 A. The charter refers to the Civil Service <br />17 Commission rules which refer to the state code. <br />is Q. Would you interpret the language in (b)(ii), <br />is "...the Commission shall conduct a test for a new <br />zo eligible list," to be mandatory? <br />zl A. Upon the occurrence of a vacancy and upon the <br />zz notification from the safety director. <br />z3 Q. But the statute doesn't say upon notification <br />z4 from the safety director, does it? <br />25 A. The rules say that. <br />Mehler & Hagestrom <br />800.822.0650 <br />(18) Page 69 -Page 72 <br />~~ _. M~f.~x~ ~ _ <br />