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City of North Olmsted Michael Ubaldi 2011 March 22 City Council Meeting , Page 85 Page 87 ~ i A. No. i suggestions? z Q. -- in terms of retirement? 2 A. No. s A. No. s Q. And again, what was the reason for your a MR. GAREAU: Mr. President? 4 suggesting these ideas in terms of the testing? s MR. LIMPERT: Yes. 5 A. As a new mayor you always want to take a look and s MR. GAREAU: He should wait until s see well, what did we do, how can we improve, ~ he finishes the question. ~ throw those ideas around. s THE WITNESS: Okay. a The only good idea -- you know, the only bad s O. After you received that information did you and s idea is the one not brought up. Civil Service io members of your staff have any discussions in io had disagreed with me and I respect that. ii regards to the test that would be used to ii Q. Okay. Now you were aware that there was a iz determine the promotion of the next police chief? 12 meeting of the Civil Service Commission on is A. I did talk to the safety and service director, is February 28th of 2011, correct? i4 Chase Ritenauer. We did talk about potentially i4 A. Correct. 15 including, would it make sense including people 15 Q. Were you present at that meeting? i6 not only from the inside here but from the i6 A. I was not. i~ outside, and what type of testing would we want i~ Q. Subsequent to that meeting, however, were you ie to see. is informed as to what had taken place on that i9 And we wanted to see testing that could, you i9 evening at that meeting? zo know, could define like leadership and 20 A. On the, on March 1st we have a directors' meeting 21 management. Some of those things 1 felt were 21 at 9:30. One of the directors had mentioned to zz extremely important, because the position does 2z me that, that they had a meeting and that they zs manage a five, you know, nearly a $5 million 2s agreed to post the police test and it was a 24 payroll. 24 two-to-one vote. zs Q. And I was going to ask why did you feel that z5 Q. Okay. Page 86 Page 88 i important, but, I mean, you just answered that. i A. And it concerned me. I had great concern. 2 A. It's an extremely important position because they 2 Because at this point we don't have a resignation 3 manage a number of people and a large payroll, a s date, so I was concerned. 4 large portion of the general fund. 4 Q. And were you also made aware at that meeting that s Q. And did you or any members of your staff present 5 at some point the assistant law director, s the suggestions or ideas to the Civil Service s Mr. O'Malley, had advised the members of the ~ Commission at some point in January or February ~ Commission that they should not go forward with a of this year? a setting that date? s A. Yes, we did. s A. Yes. 1o Q. Did you actually go to one of the meetings? to Q. And was that also a concern you had, that at that ii A. I did go to one of the meetings. 11 point that the Commission chose not to listen to 12 Q. Okay. And did you express your opinions on that 12 that advice? is matter? i3 A. It was a grave concern. i4 A. I did. 1a Q. Okay. At that point, I think you testified that is Q. Were you aware of any members of your staff also is that was the next day, Tuesday morning, March i6 expressing suggestions or ideas on the i6 1st, when you became aware of that, correct, at 17 methodology or the structure of those tests? 17 the staff meeting? 1a A. The human resource director, Cheryl Farver did, is A. Yes. March 1st, yes. 1s and Chase Ritenauer, safety and service director. is Q. And at that point you didn't, you didn't take any 20 Q. Okay. And I think you heard the opening 20 actions to remove either Mr. Ubaldi or the other zi statement from Mr. Ubaldi by his counsel tonight 21 Commission member who had voted to have that test z2 that there was some other agenda in play here. 22 go forward, did you? 23 In making those suggestions, were you 23 A. No. No action took place. z4 attempting to assert or circumvent the authority z4 MR. CARSON: Mr. President and ' 2s of the Civil Service Commission by making these zs Mr. Gareau? Mehler & Hagestrom (22) Page 85 -Page 88 800.822.0650