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<br />City of North Olmsted Michael Ubaldi <br />2011 <br />March 22 <br />City Council Meeting <br />97 <br />P , <br />Page 99 <br />age <br />i at maybe a different test, maybe a more i typically? ~ <br />z comprehensive test. 2 A. It's my understanding that once you start the <br />3 Q. And tell me, what type of more comprehensive 3 process on the test there's a lot of shelves. In <br />4 test? Can you describe what the performance 4 other words, you need -- and you need to go <br />5 portion was? 5 through the process. That's my understanding of <br />s A. Well, what we didn't want is the, you know, those 6 it, and we didn't want to put kind of the cart <br />~ same questions and a chief to just, you know, be 7 before the horse. <br />a the best at taking an oral exam or a written a Again, I'm not a lawyer and I would count on <br />s exam. We wanted our chief to show leadership s my legal, on my legal counsel. <br />io skills and, you know, managerial skills and io Q. But what would be the harm if you had a police <br />ii information technology, things that are important ii chief, Chief Wozniak, who stayed on and you had <br />12 in today's employees. 12 an eligible list of people who had taken a test <br />13 Q. And you were concerned that if the Commission 13 and would be qualified to replace him when he <br />14 scheduled an exam without fully hearing you out, 14 chose to retire? <br />15 that would cut off the date on your plan, 15 A. Again, I don't know, other than there may be more <br />i6 correct? i6 eligible people. What if he doesn't retire for a <br />i~ A. No. They fully heard me out; they just didn't 17 year? People quit and there's more eligible ~ <br />is agree with me. is people and you have to redo the test. Again, my <br />i9 Q. Well, you testified a minute ago that you removed i9 one concern was one in which we didn't have ~ <br />zo Mr. Ubaldi so that the test would not get posted, 20 notice from Chief Wozniak. <br />21 correct? 21 Q. And again, that's what I'm not clear on is why <br />22 A. Correct. 2z would notice from Chief Wozniak make a <br />23 Q. And you removed Mr. Ubaldi on March 2nd, correct? z3 difference? <br />24 A. Correct. 24 A. Because, I mean, he can tell us all he wants that <br />25 Q. Okay. And you received the opinion from the law 25 he's leaving, but until he actually gives that <br />Page 98 Page 100 <br />i director on March 4th, correct? i notice, you know, we can't assume he's leaving. <br />2 A. Correct. 2 Q. Well, you didn't think he was lying to you, did <br />3 Q. So you didn't have the advantage, the benefit of 3 you? <br />4 the law director's opinion -- 4 A. No, of course not. But people's family <br />5 A. Correct. 5 circumstances obviously change. So we give him <br />s Q. -- when you removed Mr. Ubaldi? s some leeway on that. <br />~ MR. GAREAU: Mr. President. ~ Q. Okay. <br />a MR. LIMPERT: Yes. a A. And, you know, he's a good employee because he <br />s MR. GAREAU: Again, just a quick s gives us some leeway, so we appreciate that. So <br />io reminder to let -- io we're going to give him some leeway to <br />11 THE WITNESS: Yes. Sorry about 11 potentially change his mind or extend. <br />12 that. 1z Q. And again, if he changed his mind and there was <br />13 MR. GAREAU: -- counsel finish. I 13 an eligible list, where would the harm be? <br />14 know you're eager to get an answer in, but 14 A. Well, because people could potentially from that <br />i5 just make sure he gets -- he can completely is list retire. People might be moved up and then <br />ie change the question before you answer. is be able to take the exam and we would want a <br />17 Q. I'm tricky like that. 17 current list. <br />is A. Yes. is Q. Do you believe the current procedure for <br />ie Q. You testified earlier that you were concerned if i9 certifying lists for two years at a time is good <br />20 the Chief decided to stay around an extra three 20 enough to keep a current list? <br />2i to six months, that would present a problem, 21 A. Sure. <br />2z correct? 2z Q. I'm going to ask you a quick question about the <br />23 A. I believe so. Yeah, it could. z3 memo that you sent. This is on March 7th. <br />24 Q. Isn't it your understanding that Mr. Ritenauer's 24 In that, I'm going to ask you to turn to the <br />25 eligible lists are certified for two years 25 second page of that. The first full paragraph, <br />Mehler & Hagestrom (25) Page 97 -Page 100 <br />800.822.0650 <br />