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<br />Special Council Meeting ' <br />1/22/96 <br />Page 5 <br />Jeff Schiemann, a member of the Citizen's Advisory Committee in the audience, <br />asked once the base model is in, can you predict profitability to the developers (what <br />it is worth developing it to them as a base model versus if we gave them 130 acres of <br />apartment buildings--can you predict how much more value there is in 130 acres of <br />apartment buildings versus a Beta-Park type construction? <br />Professor Simons said they will come up with a crude measure of profitability. We <br />will have the cash flows and land sales. We will attempt.to do that as part of the <br />project. <br />Mr. Schiemann said versus building it out in apartment buildings. <br />Professor Simons said it should be one of the features. <br />Mr. Ferrante said he wishes they wouldn't mention the word apartments. <br />Mayor Rinker said that is a good point Mr. Ferrante has brought up. We need to <br />address this from the get go. The value of this thing is going to be our willingness to <br />put everything on the table. Simply putting it on the table is not an endorsement. If <br />we see this as an inventory process and weight everythin.g: appropriately, what we <br />should end up with is the ideal--or one, two or three ideal scenarios--that people . <br />could live with. The ones we reject, we know we will not be rejecting them simply <br />because we don't like it. The existing zoning is without question the law. If we are <br />going to make any change, it is going to be something that a number of competing <br />interests are going to agree on--or we are just going to live with what we have. That <br />is why the baseline model has to be the existing zoning, but any change after that-- <br />we have to be realistic enough to consider different combinations. We need to be <br />able to cornmunicate that to residents and let residents to have a say. <br />Council President Fixl.er said this is an extremely imporiant factor in this subject: <br />the zoning is what it is; obviously it takes a vote of our constituents to change it. <br />The point is that as we are gathering this information, we can agree or disagree--but <br />the point is we all have certain feelings of hoiv we want it to be developed. Our <br />feelings are going to be input into this study, so all of our ideas of what we would <br />like to see happen will be in this sttidy. Therefore, the model shoul.d come out the <br />way we are anticipating it will. <br />Mr. Busa asked Professor Simons to define land swap. <br />Professor Simons said land swap is an exchange of land. You might fi.?d it as one of <br />the options.