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? <br />would like a11 the other departments to review the preliminary plans, seconded by <br />A. Skoulis, and unanimously approved. <br />2) Butternut Ridge Apartments, 5618 to 5800 Great Northern Blvd. <br />Revisions to previously approvecl plans. <br />Chairman Gorris advised that this proposal was originally approved in June of <br />1991. Mr. M. Gavin; attorney, stated that since that this project of 260 units <br />with an investment of 16 million dollars was abruptly stopped, some serious <br />financial problems have resulted. He stated that Mr. Neff, the engineer, will <br />explain why some modifieations were made to the site plan, and Mr. Furman, the <br />architect, will address the architectural modifications. He pointed out that no <br />part of the development that is proceeding now is in violation of the code. <br />There were two reasons these changes were made. First, the property line along <br />Great Northern Boulevard is not where it was first envisioned and correcting the <br />location of the property line gave the appearance that the building was moved. <br />Secondly, since it ha.d been necessary to widen some roads and turns to improve <br />fire vehicle access some minor changes had to be made to the location of some <br />streets and parking areas, thus necessitating moving some of the buildings <br />slightly. He maintained these changes were not really ma,jor, the buildings are <br />basically the same. Mr. Neff presented the original plan which was approved by <br />the Commission (prior to his company being hired) and a plan showing the original <br />property line in red. While they were developing the final plans it was <br />discovered that the property line along Great Northern Boulevard was was not in <br />the location where it was originally thought to be. The building was not moved, <br />the property line was not as originally shown, but the setbacks still conform to <br />code. Nothing else has been changed, density, acreage, etc. will rema.in as <br />originally stated. He advised that final docunents are not prepared prior to <br />preliminary approval. Mr. Orlowski questioned if they were preparing drawings for <br />each phase of the development. Mr. Neff responded that once preliminary approval <br />was received, they were contraeted to prepare all the final drawings, there is to <br />be no phase construction, and all working documents were submitted to the <br />Building, Engineering, and Fire Departments. All permits were received prior to <br />starting work. Mr. Orlowski questioned how this modification will effect the open <br />retention system. Mr. Neff explained that he has worked closely with City <br />Engineer Deichmarm and had used the template that the City uses to check turning <br />radii for energency vehicles and that was why some areas had to be widened. Al1 <br />information-was submitted and approved before starting work. The detention basin <br />will be in the setback, but it is a very attractive feature with brick walls, <br />tiers, and a water fall used for aeration. In response to questions he advised, <br />that all setbacks conform to code, that sidewalks will be installed withi.n the <br />Great Northern right-of-way; that all the drawings had been approved by the Citya <br />Mr. Tallon questioned why, when this error was d.iscovered, did they not come ba.ck <br />to the Commission. Mr. Neff stated that these drawings had been submitted and <br />approved by the Building and Engineering Departments. Mr. Orlowski stated that <br />when the plan was presented, the Commission was advised tha.t all turning radii <br />would accommodate emergency vehicles. The drawings presented to the Commission <br />detailing the numerous changes did not provide in-depth information proving to <br />the safety.forces that fire apparatus turning radius was capable. Especially the <br />change in configuration at the western end of the development. Mr. Gavin stated <br />that if they had realized the extent of the changes, they probably would have <br />gone back to the Commission, but because they were working with the Building <br />Department and the plans were modified because of a safety issues and a mistake, <br />they apparently did not think it was necessary. Mr. Neff clarified that no work <br />4
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