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T'hey were also trying to avoid having drivers going through a number of intersections in order to get the site, and by using both Mill and Dover Center Roads the traffic was being dispersed. Mi•. Miller believed that store "A" could be moved somewhat so this drive could be installed and the traffic could come off Lorain and down the road where the islauds and landscaping are. He questioned ifthe traffic consultauts addressed at this drive in their study. Mr. Papaudreas believed that this would still allow for vehicular and pedestrian interface in the shopping center. Mr. Miller thought that people would drive as close to the front as possible and tlus interface would still occur and he was more concemed about the traffic at the intersection than the interface on the property. Mr. Tliomas noted that many cars would pull up in front of the stores to pick up merchandise. Mr. Nliller suggested either adding an entrance west of McDonald's or moving the one shown to that location. Mr. Papandreas clisagreed. Mr. Tallon noted that there was only 131 feet between Mill Road and their drive which would stack 6 cars, and from Dover Center to, Lorain there would be room for 24 cars, and this whole area would be gridlock. Mr. Papandreas responded that this is why they eliminated left hand turns and they were interested in getting the cars offthe road with continuous right turns. Mr. Tallon stated that this portion of Dover Center Road is gridlock every day with nothing else there. Mr. Thomas believed that this project would necessitate the city improving the infrastructure now when they are not in a position to do so. He. asked what portion of that impact would the developers be willing to absorb. Mr. Papandreas stated that the problems at Dover Center Road are not new and were identified in the NOWCA report in 1986 and it was noted that north/south arterial improvements were needed, but none of those improvements were made. However, that property has been zoned for retail, and a developer has asked to use his land as zoned. He believed that there should be a mutual effort iu dealing with tlus problem wluch has existed for some time. Mr. Thomas noted that there would be a substantial increase in the expeuditures as a result of tlus development, and the city's schedule for implementing those improvements will be burdened as a result of the number of accesses they are plamung. Ndr. Deichmanu responded that a right turn in and right turn out access has less of an impact than a full drive. Mr. Thomas stated that, in the plauning process, it would be helpful to the Commission to kuow what the costs would be since this is the time when the city has the most leverage with the developer to help ease the burden on the city. Perhaps there could be staged developments for both the city and the developer which Mr. Deichinanu's office could provide for the Commission. Mr. Papandreas stated that they intend, within their means, to participate, and it would be helpful if they, too, were kept informed. Mr. Deichmauu advised that there were uo plans at present to install a light at Dover Center and Mill even though at present it is warranted aud that it would cost between 35 to 50 thousand dollars. Further neither pover Center uor Mill Road are at the top of the priority list for improvement, but if this development is approved, tlus would have to be re-assessed. If a light is installed at 1VIill Road it would have to be implemented into the closed loop system which gives the green light to wherever there is the greater amouut of traffic. Mr. Orlowski believed that this might stack even more velucles on the side streets. Mr. Deichmaun stated that a car could stand at a light for 90 seconds instead of 60. He agreed witli Mr. Miller that widening I3over Center Road from Mill Road to Lorain would sigvificantly improve the intersection considering that 540 new vehicles per hour are to be added. Mr. Papandreas is not sure that there would be land available to do this and he noted that Rooney's property is not shown on the plan because nothing has been finalized as yet. Resideuts were asked to participate at tlus tune. Mrs. Herbster was advised that Niill Road was not capable of caiYying truck traffic and that the building would be approxinately 80 feet from her property line. N1r. Hoelter noted the dealership's drainage system was made inoperable because of Wal-Mart when a bulldozer when tlu-ough the dike and it has not been fuced for over a year. He questioned if 6