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there would be a separate underground retention for the dealership and for Wal-Mart. Mr. Deichmann has not seen this plan. Mr. Conway advised him that this parcel was only 3/10ths of an acre larger than the original parcel, and thought that might be the addition of the Rooney property. Mr. Hoelter asked that they reconsider the figures originally used for Porter Road because it was under construction when those figures were taken. He stated that a"right turn only" does not work unless there could be some way to force the traffic to the right. He asked that traffic not be allowed to circle to the back of the store. He hoped that the upgrading of the building would also include the rear of the store which the residents must look at. He asked that the developers involve the neighbors in the planving. He noted tliat the sound of an H.V.A.C. unit with a bad bearing could keep residents up at night and asked that they be screened even if they are in the back. He questioned how emergency vehicles could get down Dover Center Road, even if it were widened to Brookpark Extension, there would still be a problem further north. He maintained that Wal-Mart was considering a 10 foot high dike with a fence and believed that what was requested for Wal-Mart should be a minimum for this development. He preferred a pump drainage system to keep water from his property and asked that the Engineer Department check the drainage system so the neighbors do not have problems. Mr. Herbster was also concemed about the drainage since -there is a drainage problem now, and Wal-Mart stated that it really was not their problem. He would like some kind of stipulation that if the neighbors do have a problem it will be taken care of and noted mound could make their problems worse. He did not believed that any drive should be installed on Lorain Road without installing a traffic signal and he also preferred the Wal-Mart plan with the entrance across from the city property. He advised that because of what he had seen tonight there would be more of their neighbor present for future meetings but they had told the residents that they would see what was being proposed before asking them to come out. He believed that all their neighbors opposed traffic on Mill Road and believed that this proposal with four mega stores should be required to have the minimum of what was established for Wal-Mart. Because he works for the city, he is aware of the drainage problems and is concerned because the city has most of the sewer problems under control and he would not like to see more problems here. He would like to see a pump system installed since his property drains to Dover Center now, and it can only drain to the mound after this development is built. He believed that raising the property 6 feet will cause problems on his property. He advised that after Wal-Mart moved its proposal, they attempted to influence council to rezone this property so there would not be the impact that stores would have, but Law Director did not think that they eould legally change the zoning. Mr. Gorris advised that the Commission had pushed for rezoning and also had the full support of the Cuyahoga County Planning Coimnission. There were other pieces of legislation that Planning Commission had requested, but none of them have come out of council. He stated that, after working two years on the Master Plan, council adopted it, but never implemented the zoning changes. He understood Mr. Herbster's frustration, because some time ago the Commission had been told that if they did not like certain situations, they should rezone property, but council has not followed through. Mr. Hoelter asked how the developer could come up with a 6.5% increase, it would seem more like 150% to him and he would like to see the figures. He stated that all the residents who were interested the last time, will be interested iu tlus. The problems still have not gone away, there is still a safety problem in the area. Mrs. Herbster was given one of the booklets and was advised that Mr. Papandreas would work with the resideuts of V.I.S.I.O.N. For size comparison it was stated that the Finast Store in Great Northeiu was 43,000 square feet so store "C" and "D" would be equal or greater to that and store `B" will be about 10% less. Mr. Thomas reminded the inembers that there were no guarantees that tlus had to be developed as a category retailer and is still 175,000 square feet of retail space. 7