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,.___..._._-- ...----- / earlier meeting, that there might not be enough room to install Maple Ridge, and the right of way was only 2 feet from someone's garage. Mr. Basalla responded that the right of way already existed, and they would merely be extending it. Councilwoman Saringer noted that the open retention in the Stonehedge development in Westlake was a monstrosity in a residential neighborhood. Even if this did not hold water all the time, it could breed mosquitoes. She reminded the members that the city inherited the swimming pool in the Deerfield subdivision and they now have another eyesore. Mr. Wachowiak, who lives adjacent to the Rice ditch, suggested that the members look at what the city did to it. The mosquito problem could be no worse than what they have now. He maintained that the ditch is an eyesore, and it turns where it is adjacent to his lot aud he has it on two sides. He liked what they are planuiug to do and believed that it cannot make it any worse. Mr. Herbster asked if he realized that there would be more potential for breeding mosquitoes in this 10 times larger saturated area. Mr. Wachowiak did not believe that it would be 10 times bigger, and suggested that they ask the city how often they have cut the weeds this year. Mr. Deiclunann presented pictures of the existing ditch and advised that it was not designed to be mowable and it has not been cut at all this year. Mrs. Comodeca, a resi.dent of W. 231st Street, believed that mosquitoes have been a problem everywhere, and she believed that she would rather have the city deal with the problems rather than have an outsider say that they are doing it for the residents. She was upset that Maple Ridge was being extended to W. 231st Street, and asked that the members come to her property to see the amount oftraffic that the street has now. She asked the commission to consider what the residents wanted and what would be better for the whole area. Mr. Margevicius, a resident and an engineer, stated that plan does not couform to four of the five requirements for a prelimiuary plan that are set forth in the Codified Ordinance, part 11, Planning Section, Title I, Chapter 1101. He cited the four requirements that it did not conform to. He believed that Mr. Deichmann was referring only to the storage capacity of Rice creek, wheu the entire area should be considered. He stated that when both of the Bridgeport developments are coustructed all the water that formerly soaked into the ground area would have to be retaiued. It is bigger than Rice Creek, but he does not know if it were sized for the entire development. He also believed that some of the data currently being used for rainfall has been superseded by more recent work by NOWACA and other federal agencies. He believed that the data used to size the facility was insufficient. He listed the points that were violated: 1) the plans must be certified by a surveyor; 2) plans must be drawn to the proper scale, (tlus can be waived at the discretion of the city); 3) preliminary plans inust show all existing streets, including intersections periphery to the land being developed, the street and lot lines which are to be developed, the existing and proposed drainage ditches (neither of which are shown), existing structures on the property immediately adjacent within 20 feet of the boundary line, and the location of plugged, capped or active gas wells within the subdivision and within 100 feet of the boundaries of the whole subdivision (there is no indication of any gas wells); and 4) a location map shall show all peripheral streets and subdivisions within approximately one mile of the land to be developed and should include the proposed subdivision and proposed streets which should be drawn on the prelimiuary plan or the proposed subdivision should be" drawn on a copy the city's zone map and submitted with the preliminary plan. Mr. Lekan, Jr. a resident of Carriage Lane, did not believe that any maintenance had been done on the existing retention system, and wondered if the situation of the home owners' association failing and the maintenance falling upon the city might be any worse than what they currently have. He does not believe that the existing system is large enough to handle the storm suxges for that area, so something bigger might be better. If the open retention is not allowed, there would be more lots and more water to handle. He would like to have whatever would handle the storm water problems that they have. Couucilman Lind advised that the residents who live along Rice ditch are extremely unhappy at what was done, even during a relatively dry period, there is standing water in the ditch. A ditch is a high maintenance item, an above ground retention basin, if properly maintained; has a lower maintenance level. He has never been an advocate of above ground retention, but he believed that this is much better than what is there now. He does not tliink it would make the mosquito situation worse. He too thought the members should 5