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building uutil the flooding proUlems are under control, but the city seems reticent to take that stand against developers. She ineutioned other new developineuts, not in North Olmsted, where uew hoines have had flooding problems and also where an above grouud retention pond had flooded three times. She urged the city to proceed cautiously. Councilman Musial advised that his office is across from an above grouud system wluch is fairly well inaintaiued and looks fairly good. He questioned if the developer had considered putting in an uuderground basin and the city could put in a park over it. Mr. Wlutlatch advised that uudergrouud retention this size would be about $10,000. per house. Duriug this couversation, 1VIr. Wlutlatch mentioned that cluldren could still play on this property. Mi•s. O'Rourke disputed this stateinent since the area is to be fenced to provide safety and she does not want this to be advertised as a play area. Mr. Wlutlatch stated that there is no real grade here, there will be no standing water and he maiutained that the word "pond" should never have appeared in the description. Mrs. O'Rourke responded that there would be water in it at tunes and questioned if they were creating an attractive nuisance. 1VIr. Wlutlatch respouded that they would fence it, but children could usually clunb any fence, but he did not tliink it was an attractive nuisance. He clarified that the slope would be more gradual than the one shown iu the pictures, and it could even be cut with a haud mower. He maintained that it would rarely be eatremely deep. N1rs. O'Rourke suggested that, if it were put undergrouud, it could be advertised as a play area and would be a selling point.-Mr. Whitlatch did not tlunk buyers would be willing to spend the extra inouey. Councilmau Musial stated that he realized the developers are putting in more thau they are required to, but he would still like to see the costs of au uudergrouud system as opposed to what is being proposed. Mr. Basalla stated that uuderground would be in the neigb.borhood of a million dollars, and he estimated that this system would cost about $100,000. Couucilmau Lind advised that the ditch that is Uack there now is about 8 to 6 feet deep and cluldren do play in it, even though it is fenced. It was also clai-ified for 1VIr. Lind that Mr. Wlutlatch had refeiTed to it as a potential play area. Mr. Miller advised that the requirements for this area were about tlu-ee quarters of a rnillion gallons, and this basin will hold slightly in excess of tluee million gallons wluch should be a substantial benefit. He further advised that the coustiuction velucles used to construct the improvements, not the homes, would access out onto Lorain Road, uot through the resideutial streets. 1VV•. Deichmaun stated that in refereuce to the cominents that the city sho.uld look at the "big picture" in the entire area, he believed that the admiiustratiou had accomplished this with the more restrictive ordinance that was passed last year. He again explained the difference the previous requireinents and the new requireinents. He also advised that the city has cleaned and video taped every sanitary sewer main iu that part of town and has made appropriate repairs where ueeded and, except on Clague and LeBern Roads wluch will be done under this contract, they have done connection repairs iu sanitary covuections that had a problein wluch was for approximately 2,000 houses. He mentioned various projects that have been done or are ui the process of being done in the area from Columbia Road, east, and Clague Road, uorth. He woudered how the picture could get inuch bigger. He believed that the residents should see siguificaut improvements, especially if this project goes tlu-ough since it provides fai- tnore stol-m water retention thau is required. In reference to a inoratorium, he questioued why should a project be stopped, if it would provide more than was required. Since the city has been advised to inove cautiously, then allowing a project to Ue built that will give more than requu'ed would be cautious. He agreed that there were stil] problems left, but some of these areas are being addressed iu the capital improvement plan. He believed that this was a win-win situation since this will help the city. Mr. Dubelko advised that planniug coimnission canuot require a developer to install more reteution underground than what the code requires of them. Mrs. Spaulding stated that this evening's discussion ouly perta'vied to storm water retention, and she did not believe that this developmevt should be approved just Uecause tliey ai•e doing this whicli N1r. Deichmami's remarks would seem to indicate. She urged the cominission to look carefully at what is going to be done with sanitary problems as well. The members discussed the motion. R. Tallou moved to accept the proposal of Bridgeport Subdivisiou (No. 2) for Wlutlatch Developtneut Coinpany, I'relimiuaiy Plan to subdivide Permanent Parcel No. 5