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J if this area was just going to be allowed to continue to fall apart. Mr. Conway clarified that they have committed to do some improvements. Mr. Corsi responded that this would minimi?e the upkeep and they cannot afford to keep this up as a city street, but they can maintain their private streets. It was clarified that this proposal does not have to return to the plamiing commission unless this board has a major objection. Mr. Zergott clid not think that anything, other than a guard rail could be done there, unless it was turned into a 40 or 50 foot wide green space; it would not be feasible as a 10 foot wide strip with a couple of trees in it because it would be destroyed and look terrible. So if it cannot be turned into a beautiful green space or a usable area, he cannot see putting money into something that will not be maintained and it appeared that neither party cared. B. Zergott moved to approve the Great Northern Plaza North, Lorain and Brookpark Road, proposal to erect barricade on drive behind shopping center in order to eliminate through traffic with a guard rail, since unless this area could be turned into a large landscaped area, at least 50 feet wide to accommodate snow plowing, nothing other than a rail would be satisfactory. Prior to secondiv.g the motion, Mr. Yager stated that he would have to reject this, and it was clarified that he could second the motion and still vote against it. M. Yager seconded the motion. Roll call on motion: Zergott, yes and Yager, no. Motion failed to pass. Mr. Yager clarified that he rejected the proposal because it is probably the least appealing solution, and if they do not like the landscape buger, then the owners should consider how people come and go because people will still have to find a way to turn around. He stated that there seems to be ample area to solve the problem in a better way which could also include solving the snow removal problems and the turn around issues. He stated that there is ample opportunity to firid other solutions of which the simplest, least aesthetically appealing, and most confusing solution would be installing the guard rail when the road continues. He believed that what they are trying to achieve is excellent, but this is a primitive way to solve it. Ms. Schulz stated it might not be ideal, but it is the most practical. He clarified for N1r. Corsi the problems he saw with having drivers who are lost and confused going through a parking lot. Mr. Yager stated that a civil engineer could solve this in about half an hour and he is rejecting how they are doing it, not the fact that they are closing the road. It was clarified that this proposal was reviewed by the Safety Department and the city traffic engineer. Mr. Corsi was given a copy of the Safety Department report and one will be sent to the condo association. Mr. Zergott did not know why this was referred to the Architectural Review Board since the representatives did not want the landscaping island. Mr. Bensen stated that he d.id not say that, but he does want the road blocked off. Mr. Zahorchak stated that he had said that, but he did not intend to mislead them. Mr. Zergott believed that a landscape buffer would cost thousands of dollars and that is why he suggested that the two groups get together to discuss not wasting the concrete area, but making this a viable park area. He reiterated that a 10 foot landscape berm would die, but he cannot ask the owner to make a park. Mr. Corsi stated that, from a practical standpoint, it does not make sense to turn a delivery area into a landscaped area. W. Yager reiterated that they could come up with a better solution since the worst option is giving drivers options when they are confused anyway. Mr. Corsi stated that when a new traffic light was installed in an area, they put up a big, lighted sign advising of it. Mr. Zergott would like this proposal to be referred back to the plauving commission, and the representatives were advised that it would be on the agenda next Tuesday. III. SIGNS: (Heard at this point). Building Commissioner Conway presented renderings of two signs for the Blue Moon Cafe, a building sign and a insert for the pole sign, both of which use a bright blue and a bright fuchsia 4