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McDermott had no problem with the design except possibly relocating some of the detention to a different area. Mr. Gabriel asked if this would help his existing standing water problem which had started 3 or 4 years ago. He explained that some neighbors, who had been unable to attend the first meeting, were present tonight, and there is a new owner, who has not moved in yet and knows nothing about this. It was clarified that this would be underground retention, and the water would empty into the ditch gradually. Mr. Gabriel stated that the water does not seem to drain into the ditch and he wondered if the city could take care of their problems while it was approving this. Mr. Deichmann explained that the proposed retention will not make the situation any worse and it will probably improve it since it will slow down the water that is flowing into the ditch. The city is aware that work needs to be done in the Canterbury area includ.ing in this ditch. He does not lnow when the city can do the conections. He stated that they needed to do some retention on the recreation center property. Mr. Gabriel advised that their problems did not start until Great Northern Dodge started expanding, removed trees, and raised the grade. Mr. Deichmann believed that part of the problem was that the city cleaned out the storm sewers on the recreation center property and there needs to be more retention there: Councilman Limpert stated these back yards are practically lakes and the water stays for weeks. He does not know if the problem was caused by Great Northern Dodge or the recreation center, but there is a serious problem. Mrs. Schwartz, a resident, stated that they had no problem until a few years ago, and now both their hot water tank and the furnace have gone off because of water in the basement. She wondered if the connecting building, which was behind her house, would make their problems worse. It was explained that the gutters and down spouts would direct the water to the retention system. She also stated that there would not be room to plant anythiug behind the addition because the asphalt came right up to the fence. The landscaping is to be installed from the rear of the building back and It was suggested that a board on board fence could be installed beyond that. It was clarified that there was no retention on the Great Northern Dodge property now and that the retention on the recreation center is going to be installed sometime in the future. Mr. Burke stated there would be catch basins throughout the property and the water channeled to the middle of the parlcing lot and let out at a slow rate. The members studied the grades and it was determined the grade would have to be raised on the west side of the property. Mr. Shartman had offered to put slats in the chain link fence, but the neighbors did not want that. The members discussed the fence with the neighbors, and if one is installed adjacent to the homes, Mr. Shartman believed that some of the residents' trees that are on his property would have to be trimined. Mr. and Mrs. Schwartz and Mr. Gabriel had no problem with the trees being trimmed and believed that a board on board fence would be an improvement. Mr. Tallon stated that 6 foot a board on board fence should begin from the start of the landscape area to the rear of the addition at which point new landscaping would be installed. The neighbors had no problem with them trimming the trees, but would not like trees removed. A revised drawing should be submitted for architectural review board. Chairman Tallon moved to accept the proposal of Great Northern Dodge, project number 2, located at 26100 Lorain Road and to send it on to architectural review board for landscaping and other amenities that they will look at. The new plans should show the dumpster in the center aisle at the rear of the body shop building, the loading zone; the 15 foot rear buffer; the inclusion of a 6 foot high, board on board fence on the west border from the landscaped area to the rear of the proposed addition on the west border; the landscaping on the north west corner is to be increased with alternate plantings to shield the parking lot and the landscape area is to be 15 foot buffer on the rear and on the side. A complete landscaping plan should be presented to the architectural review board, and the elevations on the west side must be changed so that water will drain into the ditch, and to make sure the drainage does not go up hill. The proposed new building will be removed and the properties will be combined. The motion was seconded by A. Mauuing and unanimously approved. This proposal will have to return to planning commission after architectural review board. It was clarified that project number 1 will be going to bzd whenever it is called. 2