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; ??. • • ? Y O'Rourke' questions, Mr. Herschman eacplained, there will be no garden center and there will be no customer pick up in the rear. Mr. McKnight advised Mr. Brennan that these plantings grow at a fairly significant rate and they will be of a substantial size initially, approxuna.tely 7 to 8 feet pines plauted on a slight berm, 2 to 3 feet high, between the sections of fence; the shade trees will be 2 to 2.5 inch caliper and the oaks will be 3 inch, so initially the oak trees would be 20 to 25 foot when they go in. He clarified for Mr. Herbster, that unit "C" will be demolished and entirely rebuilt and would be about 20 foot more shallow than the present building. Mr. Tallon asked if the dumpsters adjacent to "C" and to Marc's would have brick screen walls. Mr. Sherry stated that the dumpster behind "C" would be enclosed with a brick wall, and at present the dumpster behind Marc's is a fence, but they would consider a masonry enclosure. It was further clarified that there was an 8 foot wall screening the trucks on "C". Mr. Herbster pointed out that the compactor for unit `B" faced the residents, and Mr. Hersclunau responded that there was no line of vision there and there was a berm across the street. Mr. Herbster was more concemed about noise than sight, pointing out that the compactor would be used at midnight at times. Mr. Herschmau doubted that there would be activity at midnight and stated that the compactor was about 300 feet away and the landscaping across the street was the deepest aud was mounded. He stated that there was an ordinance covering this. Building Commissioner Conway advised that there was a noise ordinance with specific time provisions, but it was difficult to enforce at night. Mr. Herbster stated that he lived behind a shopping center and he knows this goes on at midnight. Mr. Barlow responded that if there is such an ordinance they will re-address it in the lease and it will be double enforcement. Mr. Herschmau believed that they could turn the compactor or dumpster and swing the wall parallel to the building. Mr. Tallon advised that the commission will want signage placed at all the loading docks advising what the ordinance states, and they want the owner to include it in their leases so they can legally control it. Two things happen, one, nobody can control B.F.I. and two, during the holiday season they will be running the compactor constantly so the use of the compactor should be curtailed so that it is not used after 9:00 or 9:30 p.m. and not start up until after 7:00 a.m. in the moming, or whatever the times are in the ordinance. Neither should the trucks be allowed to idle while they are unloading. Mr. Barlow agreed that they had the ability to do this now rather than going back and reconstructing leases that are in existence. Mr. Hersclunan stated that it will be easier to deal with three large users which is easier than dealing with several uses. The small users are rarely a problem since their hours are the same as the daylight hours. Regard.ing the lighting, in response to Chairman Tallon's questions, it was clarified that the lights on the buildings were about 16 feet high and the buildings were various heights from 20 to 28 feet. It was noted that there were four 20 foot light poles, so that there is reasonable lighting coverage, in the rear at the drives. Mr. Tallon stated if they wanted to keep them at 20 feet, he would prefer that they bring the lighting out to the perimeter of the property with zero cut-off toward the residences, so it is zero at the property lines with no reflection or harsh lighting. They intend to use 175 or 400 watt, metal halide bulbs on tlie building. Mr. Brennan believed this was extremely bright and Mr. Tallon there would be a problem with the glare if the light was shooting out at the residential area. Mr. Herschman responded that the fixtures at a 51 degree cut-off and there is no glare, no apparent lamp source, and no reflector that drops below the fixture. Mr. Tallon noted that if you are looking at the fixture you will see part of the reflective light. Mr. Herschman responded with a 51 degree cut of? a person would have to be under the fixture to see the source, and these would be 120 feet away. If there is a questionable area when they get the photometrics study, they will see to it that no light goes over to the condominiuins. Mr. Sherry stated that they do not intend to light up their back yards. Mr. Tallon noted that metal halide is a very harsh light and it bounces of cars and pavement and gives off a glow. Mr. Herschman agreed to reflect the light in and pointed out that these poles would only be in a few areas. They will present a photmetric plan to the commission for their review. The developers pointed out the areas where the fences will be installed. In response to Mrs. O'Rourke's question, it was verified that the westernmost driveway would remain the same. Mr. Tallon would like a stop bar and stop sign at this point. Mr. Conway suggested landbanking the parking 3