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with black vinyl lettering and only the letters would be illuminated. The size of the sign is 13 <br />feet 1%z inches wide and 2 feet 7%z inches tall. The ground signs SG-6 is a directional sign <br />which will be placed so the service area and customer parking is identified. The directional <br />sign will not be illuminated and is 4 feet high 3 feet 7%2 inches wide. SG-5 is the VW pylon <br />sign which will be 9 feet 10 inches tall, 3 feet 6'/a inches wide and will only have the VW <br />logo illuminated the remaining frame will be aluminum. Mr. Lasko questioned the location <br />and status of the existing pylon sign. Mr. Kalina said that the existing pylon sign would <br />remain as is in its current location. <br />Mrs. Meredith voiced that she did not believe that SG-5 pylon sign was warranted as there is <br />already a ground sign which has each car brand name and the VW logo. If the pylon sign is <br />eliminated it would eliminate variance #4 for two ground signs being too close, variance #2 <br />would decrease to a variance for 1 additional ground sign and variance #5 would be <br />decreased in size for distance between existing pylon and proposed SG-6 directional sign. <br />Mr. Lasko questioned if the owners had given thought of moving the existing pylon sign and <br />landscape bed to a new centralized location instead of requesting a second pylon sign. Mr. <br />Kalina said he researched moving the existing pylon and found that it could not be <br />repositioned due to the sign and landscape plans being previously approved and installed. If <br />the VW pylon is not approved the existing pylon would just remain as is. The VW logo <br />could not be resized nor the Ganley sign as they are standard sizes which axe designed for the <br />size and placement on the building. The commission felt that the two wall signs were not <br />proportioned to the size of the building as purposed so decreasing SG-1 logo to 4 foot and <br />SG-2 Ganley sign being re-proportioned to the 4 foot logo would not compromise the <br />architectural integrity of the building. <br />Mr. Kalina suggested that if the commission allowed the Ganley, service and directional <br />pylon signs he could get the logo sign decreased to 4 foot and eliminate the second pylon <br />sign. He voiced that he thought the Ganley owner would agree as well. Mrs. Meredith <br />requested the re-proportioned Ganley sign be relocated beneath the VW logo as the planner <br />recommended. Mr. Kalina stated the location of the Ganley sign could not be moved. Mr. <br />Cotner voiced his disbelief that Volkswagen headquarters only had one size signs and design <br />layout available and questioned what happened in other communities. Mr. Kalina suggested <br />that the total square footage of all three wall signs is below what the building is allowed to <br />have for one wall sign. Mr. Malone did not feel that the directional sign was necessary as <br />there were basically only two directions to travel once you enter the driveway straight to <br />service or turn right for Volkswagen parking. Mr. Kalina believed the directional sign was <br />needed to ensure customers entering go to VW not the Hyundai/Subaru site. <br />Mrs. Meredith questioned if painting a fence green would be acceptable. Mr. Rymarczyk <br />said that it was acceptable as long as it is a green fence. Paint will chip and become a <br />maintenance issue that the applicant will have to keep up with. Commission members voiced <br />that the approved plans approved a green vinyl fence not a painted vinyl fence and that <br />occupancy permits should not be granted unless the plans which were approved are followed. <br />Mr. Bruehler a neighbor to the north agreed with the board eliminating the front pylon sign <br />and decreasing the size of the remaining signs. He is concerned that the Ganley sign is <br />proposed to be 5 feet tall when the city is trying to decrease the number and sizes of signs <br />along Lorain. Yet the applicant feels they are entitled to variances and that the city should <br />bend for them when it should be the applicant doing what is required to fit into this city not <br />visa versa. Regarding the vinyl fence which was to be erected it was to be a green vinyl <br />4
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