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recommendations made by the Planning & Design Commission as they perform a separate roll. Mr. Burke questioned what the applicants hardship is or why the owners choose not to follow city codes. Mr. Kalina stated that the signs are a standard size dictated by Volkswagen headquarters and they do not make a 4 foot logo. Mr. Burke asked if the 4 foot 9 inch logo sign was the only size logo made or was there are smaller size sign. Mr. Lisy stated that there is a smaller 42 inch logo made. He reviewed that out of the 5 signs they want for the project the priority is as follows: 1) VW logo, 2) VW pylon, 3) Ganley wall, 4) directional and 5) Service sign. He can accept not being allowed two pylon signs but the VW logo is paramount to Volkswagen. Mrs. Diver reviewed that the city as a whole is trying to cut back on the number and size of signs throughout the city. Mr. Lisy suggested that the building is setback quite far from the street. Mr. Rymarczyk advised that the applicants building did not sit back any further than any other business along Lorain Road. Mr. Kalina stated that if the city does not do what Volkswagen wants then Ganley will not receive the funds for the new building. Mr. Kalina continued to barter what would and wouldn't be done with the 5 requests. Mr. O'Malley advised the board that the Building Department would need to provide them any possible variance changes and the applicant and board members should reference signs discussed as they are called out on the plans. Mr. Rymarczyk stated that he would not provide any alterations in the variances being requested without having plans submitted accurately reflecting what is being requested. He strongly recommended that board not make motions on items and sizes that have not been presented. He requested the applicant be asked to submit accurate plans. The applicants continued to try to negotiate what they could and would give up if they were given other items. Mr. Burke voiced his frustration that the applicants were trying to have the board barter what would be allowed and suggested the board either move on what had been submitted or table the matter until new plans are submitted. The applicant has not given or shown a hardship they are just saying they want and that is not justification for granting variances. Board members agreed that they did not what to approve anything based on assumption. Mr. Lisy again tried to negotiate the number, sizes and placements of signs and suggested again that Volkswagen funds would be in jeopardy. He suggested without the Ganley sign the dealer would have no recognition. Mr. Rymarczyk reminded the applicant that there was a Ganley sign on the lot until recently when Ganley of their own accord decided to remove the sign. Mr. Lisy said the sign had to be removed due to the Pontiac dealership being sold. Mr. Kalina submitted page number 2 of a 2 page e-mail stating the #3 clip is not negotiable. Mr. Maloney advised that the board could motion on the variances as written or table the matter. Mr. Rymarczyk advised the applicants to submit plans 2 weeks prior to the meeting in which they anticipate attending. J. Maloney moved to table Ganley VW of 25580 Lorain Road. M. Diver seconded the motion which was unanimously approved. Tabled 2. Fifth Third Bank; 26187 Lorain Road: (WRD # 4) Request for variance (1123.12). The proposal consists of an additional ATM drive-through lane. A. A special permit to add to a non-conforming building (1165.02 (b)(1)). B. The following variance is requested: 1. A 17 foot 10 inch variance for rear yard setback, code requires 50', applicant shows 32'.2"), section (1139.08 (g)). 2. A variance for conducting business activity in the rear sows business activity), section (1139.08 (g)). 4. A 17.8 foot candle variance for excessive illumination applicant shows 32.8 fc.), section (1161.12 (C)). yard, (code does not permit, applicant under canopy, (code requires 15 F.C., 5