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COMS08-0008: Slam Jams; 24108 Lorain Road: (Ward 2) Representatives: Joe Khouri, Carnegie Management; Mr. Dawes, owner Ms. Wenger reported that the proposal consisted of adding an outdoor patio addition to an existing tenant space. The patio will Ue located outside of the main entrance, on an expanded sidewallc area. It will be enclosed with a 3%z foot high decorative metal fence. Four planter containers and three cigarette receptacles are proposed. The parking lot will be slightly modified to maintain required drive aisles, resulting in the loss of one parking space. Mr. Conway advised that the owner needed to submit a drawing addressing the portion of the lot which was restriped froin what was previously approved so the commission could approve the new striping layout. There are no parking issues however the commission can set limits. Mr. Collins said the downspout drain as it currently exists is against code and is required to be tied into a storm sewer collection system which he would like required for approval. Mr. Khouri said he had been working with City staff to provide his tenant an outdoor patio. They have tried to meet all the issues brought up at their meetings such as handicap parking, ingress/egress, parking and ADA compliance. Due to the new smolcing restrictions it has caused business to decline and the outdoor patio will provide his clientele a place to smolce. They are working to lceep tenants at the center. There are currently no accommodations for the clients which smolce. Mr. Dawes said to be competitive he has to have a patio to accommodate smolcers. Since the law was enacted they have had a 33% decrease in business. The area proposed would house 5 to 6 small tables. Mr. Rerlco said since the smolcing ban was passed outdoor patios in the front of businesses have been added and he is concerned that it will encourage smolcing. The city may want to require smolcing areas to be screen from view. He aslced for clarification of the parlcing lot restriping. Mr. Rerlco said the joint cut for the ramp should be squared at the control joint to avoid maintenance issues. Mr. Malone agreed with Mr. Rerko and is against smolcing areas in front of businesses, but he understands the predicament business owners are in. He recommends heavier buffering so the patio is not as visible from the front. More planters need to be used a minimum of 24 inch diameter planters large enough to sustain upright juniper evergreens to create a hedge. Annuals and perennials can also be added for seasonal color. Mr. Khouri said they would place the planters inside the fence for safety. Mrs. Meredith aslced if tables and service would be provided outdoors or if they affect the parlcing requirements. Mr. Conway said he would prefer the cormnission see these details on a set of plans prior to approval and stipulate the number of tables and chairs to be allowed and the parking space striping shown. Mr. Rerlco said that he had no objections to outdoor tables as the use is after normal business hours of the plaza and will not impact existing parlcing. Mrs. Meredith said she is concerned the smoking area along the front of the building would be a detriment to the other tenants. She aslced if the patio could be placed behind the plaza. Neighbors present in the audience voiced their disapproval of having a patio in the rear of the plaza. Mr. Laslco asked that an additional handicap space be provided for the deli. Ms. Williamson felt having the patio would contain the smokers and keep them from wandering throughout the plaza. Mr. Conway said the patio is to allow drinlcs to be taken outside when the smolcers step out. Mr. O'Malley questioned if the patio would be closed in during winter