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been worlcing on residential units since 1959 and he provided the names of companies he had worked for to Mr. Mitchell and the city can check references. Building Commissioner Mitchell was sworn in and distributed various documents. Mr. Mitchell said Chapter 1317.04(c) Registration Submittals references ORC 1317.05 which pertains to insurance, as proof of insurance was not provided when Mr. Claus submitted his application. Chapter 1317.04(d) License Submittal lists five items which can be submitted to the building commissioner to demonstrate satisfactory skills; the applicant provided a list of names, addresses and phone numbers of clients or other contractors for whom he performed work. According to the list, work was performed at 4386 Coe Ave to install a new furnace system; however in searching city records it was found that neither a pennit nor inspections were ever conducted for such work at the address so the job could not be verified. Mr. Claus eventually provided proof of insurance and a certificate from the city of Parma. Mr. Mitchell contacted the City of Parma and was told there were no requirements for residential registration. He reviewed Chapter 3781.102 Extending Building Department Certifications. The chapter lists jurisdictions by municipal and county building departments for requirements for registration on certain specialty trades including heating and ventilating, air conditioning and refrigeration, electrical and plumbing. The packet also included eight letters between 2002 and 2009 pertaining to registrations or permits which were either denied or revoked. His reasoning for submitting other denial letters was to demonstrate that the applicant's denial was not uncommon as all applicants which do not have a State license are denied. Despite Mr. Claus' experience he requires a state license for registration. Mrs. Sabo questioned if a state license could be issued to a company, an individual or both and Mr. Mitchell said it could be both. If a company or corporation has a state license its employees are covered under the license. Mr. O'Malley briefly reviewed the difference between state and local licensing. Mr. Claus said he purchased his insurance so he could register to worlc in North Olmsted. The work for 4386 Coe Ave was performed while working for someone else and he was not responsible for pulling permits and didn't know a pennit was required. If the City registers him and if he pulls a pennit then an inspector would inspect the work to make sure it is done right: He is trying to conduct his business the right way. Mr. Mitchell said that Mr. Claus' application even with the extra insurance does not meet the city requirements. If Mr. Claus worlced under a company which has a state license he could work within North Olmsted. He said Mr. Claus also can take the state licensing test and if he passes can register. Mr. Claus said that at his age he is not interested in taking the state licensing test as passing it would be very hard as it includes commercial systems. He is registered in Parma and although he is not registered in Westlake he is bonded to work in Westlake and if he has to pull a pertnit he contacts a certain person with the city to receive the permit. Mrs. Sabo advised that each city or municipality has their own laws and standards and North Olmsted requires a state license. Mr. Meder said there are other cities which allow residential trade workers to register and asked if the city had the right to create such legislation to allow residential trade work for those who are not licensed. Mr. O'Malley said local requirements are regularly updated and reviewed that the building commissioner advised the applicant that he could work under the umbrella of a company which is licensed by the state. A brief discussion about how and what type of legislation could be drafted to allow non-licensed residential work ensued. Mr. O'Malley 2