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Walker Road at 6:30 A.M. in the morning he normally sees six trucks waiting to be unloaded. <br />Even if the Giant Eagle downsides the store to go under the limit that was agreed upon of 80,000 <br />square feet, what legal procedure is required to guarantee that all agreed upon promises are not <br />changed or deleted after you the Planning Corrunissioners rule. Many of the trucks that will be <br />used for this shopping center are for fresh and frozen foods, and are equipped with refrigeration <br />units that set high on the trailers so the noise will go right over the noise barriers that are on site. <br />The concrete walls and such the areas that the Commissioners were talking about for the trash <br />compactors stuff like that. The refrigeration units are over the eight foot high walls. That sound <br />is going to come right into our yards. Trash compactors will not only be used for cardboard <br />boxes but also for garbage and rotting food. Which is normal for a grocery store as he is not <br />trying to imply anything by that. This is not only for adding to the noise level but to the smell in <br />the air. Large refrigerator compressors, do we have anything on our plans that we are reviewing <br />tonight for the engineering changes that will have to take place at this store, or are these <br />developers going to come back at a different time and say, "Oh they which we would've known <br />we needed this here or that there we wouldn't done this the way we did, but were locked in the <br />way were doing it now. Mr. Hoelter would like to see this tabled until we get all the plans we <br />need. Mr. Dubelko suggested he would like to make a comment that might be helpful to the <br />residents. When he talks about a developer being locked into the codes he is referring to zoning <br />codes and building codes, and construction of buildings. The developer is not locked into <br />current business regulation codes. Business regulation codes are codes that regulate businesses <br />which create nuisances. Example, a number of years back maybe a few of you remember, ten or <br />fifteen years ago a problem the residents on Canterbury had with the Burger King operation, <br />which was the outside squawk boxes. People seven houses down on Clague Road could hear <br />people asking for french fries at midnight. The City was able to deal with that. We passed an <br />ordnance which prohibited Burger King and other fast food restaurants, from operating squawk <br />box operations late at night. We were challenged, Burger King took us to court and Mr. <br />Dubelko tried the case in front of Judge Stephanie Tubs Jones. Maybe some of you have heard <br />about her in the news. She ruled against the City. She ruled that our ordnance was <br />unconstitutional. We appealed it and took it to the Eighth District Court of appeals. The Eighth <br />District Court of Appeals reversed her and said our ordinance was constitutional and it was <br />entirely proper for us to regulate business operations that have an impact on neighborhoods. So <br />you have to keep in mind, and he thinks it is important for us to not lose hope some times, <br />whereas you are locked into the zoning codes where structures are located and buildings usage <br />of property, property owners are not given carte blanche to continue any business operation that <br />impacts or causes a nuisance condition on neighboring lots. We do have a noise ordnance on the <br />books already. Sometimes it's a matter of enforcement, making sure that the law is being <br />enforced by the City. That is one thina that you have to protect you, and if for some reason it <br />doesn't work, there is another noise type operation or nuisance lighting type operation that <br />impacts adversely causes nuisance conditions upon residential neighbors, then a new law can be <br />passed that can restrict business operations in so far as they create a nuisance. So please keep . <br />that in mind it is different from zoning codes. It's not this bodies function to deal with that, but <br />again that is something that City Council can deal with if a business operation becomes a <br />nuisance Mth it's activities in the neighborhood. Mr. Hoelter suggested he may have been <br />misunderstood on that. What he is talking about is engineering changes that would need blue <br />prints and one thing that comes to mind to him right now is, is there anything on the blue prints <br />15
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