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.T the whole way, but he would dense up the landscaping, because he believe it would be more attractive. He asked that they keep in mind what is there now. He stated that they are curbing, paving, screening the docks, and there are none of those things now. The developers clarified that they cannot screen the Marc's docks. The condo representatives stated that the Marc's area has been a continuing source of complaints with trucks, noise, and debris. Mr. Herschman responded that this can be enforced by the city's ordinance. He stated that their management can inform the tenants of the ordinances. Mr. Barrow agreed those concerns can be addressed. The association is also concerned if the Fire Department would have a problem with a solid barrier. Mrs. Doubler stated that they are willing to negotiate, but why are they ruling out a solid wood fence. Mr. Banow stated it was partially economics, but he believed that what they planned would be effective, and it was not inexpensive. Mrs. Doubler thought that the Superstore could help with these expenses. Mr. Barrow stated that this would not happen, they are leasing, if they were buying it they might do something like that. Mr. Liggett suggested a higher mound on the east side, but the condo representatives were concemed about the drainage since there are drainage problem there now. Mr. Barrow stated that drainage around the mounds is relatively easy to address. Mr. Liggett stated that providing drainage would be an easy solution, but the problem is probably the grading on the condo property. He believed that the existing mounds could be increased in height with both higher and lower shrubs planted. He thought that the problem of truck noise inside the truck docks has been solved, but not the noise from trucks on the street. Mr. Barrow stated they will install signs along Victoria Lane prohibiting trucks from parking, to stop them from lining up. He explained that the proposed tenants have controlled deliveries and trucks will not stand around for hours. Some of these issues can be put in the leases. Mr. Barrow stated that they would check Marc's lease to see what rights they have in their lease and wondered if they were allowed to park trucks over night. Mr. Conway stated that the problems can be solved, but with the changing of management they might re-occur. Mrs. Canwright stated that since tenants change, they believed that the wall was a permauent solution. Mr. Zergott repeated that when the wall was so far away it would not held. Mr. Liggett pointed out if a new dock was installed, they would have to come back to the boards. Mr. Zergott would like them to come back with a much denser landscape plan, he did not think there should be more fencing to the east, but there should be more in the Marc's area. Mrs. Canwright would prefer an 8 foot high fence, but it was explained that it would be hard to climb a 6 foot board on board fence. Mr. Zergott believed a higher fence could not support itself and would lean. He would like a 6 foot fence with denser landscaping and higher mounds on the east side. He thought that there could be mounds behind the theater. The height of the mound could be determined by their landscape architect, and he could review a new plan before they go back to planning commission. The developers agreed to present a plan to the city before Tuesday so Mr. Zergott can review it. Ms. Oring, a resident, stated that Marc's is a trouble spot and questioned if they were going to extend the fence behind Marc's. The developers would prefer a living fence about 6 foot high. W. Herschman would like to keep the same scheme, with sections of fence. Ms. Oring stated that Marc's had trailers dropped on the street, trucks on the property almost 24 hours a day, and up until the first of the year they had fork lifts with backup beepers going at 5:00 a.m., and occasionally dumpsters being unloaded at about 5:00 a.m The area across from Marc's has a fairly nice backyard area and everything on Marc's property is visible. Mr. Banow pointed out that this is where they are going to landbank parking so they can install a denser planting area now. He believed that this problem can be solved from a operational standpoint. It was noted that Marc's has been cited, and they just go back to their original operations. Mr. Conway stated that the previous owner of the center had several changes in staff, and hopefully, this owner would have the same people in place. It was clarified that only the electrical utilities on the shopping center would go underground, but the poles adjacent to the condo's belong to the llluminating Company, and the developer cannot touch them. Mrs. Doubler asked what other materiaLs Mr. Herschman was refeiring