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? are there are only about 3 foot high and they are adding another mound with additional landscaping, but that will not protect them from the construction and the debris that will occur. Mr. Yager pointed out that there were some things that could not be controlled. This will not be an ongoing situation and would require some patience. Mrs. Canwright stated that what they are proposing is very attractive and far superior to what is there now, but they believe that it will not control the noise which the residents are concerned about. She noted that the rules frequently change when the tenants change. When Best Buy came in there was to be no customer access in the rear, but a stereo installation facility was put in later, and it has turned into an on-going problem with the installers leaving to doors open. They believed that masonry wall would take care of these problems even if the tenants changed and at some time a tenant would need customer access in the back. It was clarified for Mr. Yager that the center was built first and the apartments were built later by the developer of the shopping center. Mr. Liggett stated that this is a totally different situation from Wal-Mart, these residents were aware of what was there when they moved in. Mr. Liggett believed that the mound and wall behind Wal-Mart was one of the worst things that was done in that area since there was nothing to screen on the rear of ?the building, the residents would see a masonry wall regardless of whether it was the back of the building or a wall. This would not be a good solution in either situation. Councilman McKay stated that the wall was to keep people from going from Wal-Mart into their property, so the wall is doing its job. The residents would rather see the wall than have people trespassing. Since the developer has said the wall is out of the question, Mr. Yager wondered what the residents response was. He further noted that Marc's had things stored in the back, and he thought this developer would take better control of this in the future. He did not think the goal of the developer would be to make the condo association extremely happy. He asked how the two groups could get together. The president of the condo agreed it looked good. Mr. Yager suggested that the landscape plan begins to address, but does not completely address the area from the theater to the left (behind CompUSA and Marc's). Mr. Herschman suggested if Marc's had to store all that outside, then they should build a wall. Mrs. Canwright believed there should be a solid wall on the east of the garage, with perhaps a more continuous fence with clumps plantings inside the fence. Mr. Zergott agreed that the landscaping should be inside the fence, but questioned who would maintain it. Mrs. Canwright stated that what they had proposed for the wall was that any planting on their side of it and installed by the developer should be replaced if they die or become diseased within 18 months, however the association would maintain the lawn and the shrubs inside the fence. Mrs. Doubler, the assoeiation treasurer, stated that this plan was presented to the members who found it deficient. It was estimated that about 55 units back up to the shopping center, but Mrs. Doubler stated that all the property values would be affected. W. Liggett believed that this landscaping would increase their value. Mrs. Doubler believed solid barrier was needed along the property line to keep debris from blowing onto their property and to keep people from trespassing since there have been acts ofvandalism..They only want one break in the barrier where there is a walkway across from Marc's. W. Yager speculated that a person could come through that one opening and then would have 800 feet of fence to shield him. He thought that the fence interspersed with landscaping would be more aesthetic and would still provide a barrier. Mrs. Canwright pointed out that planting would be sparse at certain times of the year. Mr. Zergott repeated that a wall would have to be 60 feet high to stop the sound, so that was not the issue. He believed that plants would work better as a barrier for people cutting through and to control debris. He asked if the developers would consider a continuous wood fence. Mr. Herschman believed that this would give a prison effect, and believed that adding some fencing and changing some of the plantings to something that was impenetrable, such as hawthorn. Also, there are ways of incorporating cyclone fencing that disappears in the plantings. He noted that any cut through would be a security risk. Although there is . some fence in the area of Marc's, it is not completely fenced. He did not thiuk that any cut through should be included because of the indemnity. Mr. Banow stated that he would not run a wood fence