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residential, visual backdrop to the condos. He clarified that the fence does not run behind the area across from Marc's. Tlus area will be honey locust and a 6 foot high hedge planting beyond that there is an evergreen groupings interiwined with other plantings and fences. As it goes east there is some mounduig and they will make it stronger vertically and thickly planted with bnrning bush, junipers, hemlocks and a background of vertical plants. Additional landscaping will be installed to the east of these mounds. Mr. Yager asked what the developers opinion was of the condominium's proposal since they had probably submitted this plan prior to getting these notes. The developers met with the condominium association officers last night and there are several items that they can easily accommodate. The major issue is the 1,800 foot, 12 foot high masonry wall which was proposed. The board members had stated at the last meeting that it would not have to be 12 feet high, but they believe that a masonry wall is out of the question since the economics would be astronomical. They believe that they have contained the sound with the recommendations of the acoustical engineer that are incorporated in the plans. Since the main problem was containing the noise, they believe that they have done that, since the best place to control sound is at the source. They have provided a mixture of landscaping and fencing and believed that this will address most concerns. He stated that the city had ordinances to control docking hours which can be incorporated in their leases. Mr. Herschman noted that these regulations were not under the jurisdiction of these boards. Mr. Yager stated that there are still noises that cannot be contained. Mr. Barrow believed that during the transition of ownership some liberties had been taken. The operations manager had not mentioned the complaints that have been made by the condo association at these meetings. There are issues behind the south plaza that need to be addressed. Mr. Yager asked how far apart they were apart with the requests of the condominium board. The developers responded that they were a wall apart. Mr. Sherry stated that such a wall would not do any good, it would be a masonry barrier but the sound problem would not go away, the sound would go over 12 feet high and around corners, the wall would have to be 60 feet high. Mr. Herschman noted that highways were usually recessed and the barriers were higher, but the sound problem was not solved. They believed that with the recomnaendations of the acoustical engineer, they had solved a lot of the issues. They could enhance the landscape zones if need be, they can have some waiting areas in the front of the building by creating a deep strength asphalt zone in a remote part of the parking lot, so trucks will not have to wait in back for other trucks to unload. These are usually daytime activities, uulike the food industry. Though Marc's does have some food items, this is a management issue that can be add.ressed. The back up beepers on the service vehicles could be disconnected and they will look into moving those away from the residenrial areas. There will be service activity in the rear, but their plan addresses minimizing the sounds. He would prefer a residential type fence in his back yard, and would not want a masonry wall. The maintenance of a board on board fence would be the responsibility of the shopping center. Neither does he believe extending the fence would be an answer. Mr. Zergott did not believe two trees m 60 feet was dense landscaping. Mr. Herschman mentioned that there would be a 6 foot evergreen hedge. Mr. Zergott did not see an evergreen hedge on the plan, only the privet hedge. It was clarified that the privet hedge belong to the condominiums and their landscaping would go up to that. Mr. Yager asked the condominium representatives to address the issues. Mrs. Canwright, president of the board of managers, explained that they presented their proposal at the January 13th meeting, and had met with the developer last night. She stated that they had responded to many of the issues, but had stated that a masonry wall was out of sight. They do not believe that a fence and landscaping will do the job of noise abatement that they expect a masonry wall to do. She noted that masonry walls have been installed in other sections to cut down on noise of semis pulling in and other traffic noises. Their proposal was as all inclusive as possible as a result of their residents' comments. They also would like a barrier or wall constructed before any demolition or re-construction starts. Some of the major construction will be east of the existing garage, behind the proposed superstore. The two mounds that