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!R % ^h or work out some type of agreement with the residents. Mr. Kula indicated that, he would aaree to set a timer on the lights, so that was not an issue. He indicated the business was open Monday through Thursday, until 9:00pm, Friday, Saturday until 6:00pm and Sundays they are closed. Mondays through Thursdays could be hard, as there were customers during the week as late as 9:30pm. The reason for not waiting is because he is trying to conduct business and stay cornpetitive. In regards to future development the lights would already be in place. Something needs to be done now to address the light problem. Mr. Koeth asked how high the office building currently was. Mr. Kula suggested it was 12 feet as well as the buildin? on the West Side of the lot. He indicated that, the homeowners on Lorain Road should realize they are ori a commercial street. Comments have been made by customers, that they have driven by thinking that the lot was closed because of how dark the lot looked. NIr. Brennan asked the audience to please refrain from making comments while Mr. Kula was speaking. Mr. Kula suggested the empty office building, as well as three additional lots, are owned by Halleen KIA. Mr. Koeth asked if there were trees behind the lots that were owned by KIA. Mr. Kula reviewed the property that is owned by Halleen KIA. Mr. Koeth asked if the lights measured zero at the lot lines. Mr. Brennan indicated that the lots Halleen owned would not be at zero. Mr. Conway indicated his equipment would not read lower than .25 foot-candles. Mr. Koeth asked were the cars would be located. Mr. Kula reviewed that the cars are 75 feet back from the front of the lot. Mr. Conway reviewed that cars could not be on display in the 75-foot setback. Mr. Brennan indicated that, whenever he worked on a lighting issue or design lighting, he consulted with an impartial third party, called the illuminating society to make a recommendation. They indicate what type of light and what kind of foot-candles should be used on the project. IES makes recommendations for everything from baseball stadiums to parking garages and airport hangers. There is nothing regarding- car dealerships, he called their company and asked why they had no comments for auto dealerships. IES indicated that they were presently working on that issue and would not be done for about a year or year and a half before they have their standards. IES sugjested following industry standards, which is like a catch all between electrical contractors trying to make an extra buck by over selling and auto dealers that want their lots to look like Las Vegas. Industry standards for an auto dealership is a 30 foot pole every 30 feet apart "2" 1,000-watt metal halide floods, 15 feet above the ground "2" 400-watts in addition as bumper lights. Industry standard for foot candles go from 40-watts to 100-watt maximum. The lights that have been proposed are 1,000-watt bulbs with a 20-degree tilt, not an upright flood a tilt and 7.76 as an average foot-candle. This project is below industry standards, but it still doesn't address the issues of future development, and the fact that a 1,000-watts of light is a lot of light. Mr. Spalding asked how the lights compared with other lots on Lorain. Mr. Conway suggested it has been the practice of the board in the past 10 years or so to down sizing the fixtures to an average of 400-watts. Obviously there is a mix up and down Lorain, some of the companies that have been in place for a while have more lighting, but he believes it is the goal of the Planning Commission to have more fixtures with lower wattage and have better control over the lighting. He feels that the applicant's goal is get some lights in the front of his lot and worry about what is goina to happen to the remainder of the lot as they develop. Is 1,000-watts too much that is up to the Commission, it is unfortunate that Mr. Tallon is not present for this meeting as the board relies on his lighting expertise. Mr. Dubelko asked if he understood that the lights were to be tilted back towards the residential areas. Mr. Brennan indicated it is called a 20-degree tilt so you can not see the lamp as much and it helps shield the light and throw it forward, it is not a straight down light. Mr. Dubelko commented that 2