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I; connection was made between the new gazebo and the existing roof. It looks a little clumsy over there. Mrs. Nadar questioned what the purpose of the porch was. Mr. Deichmann indicated that it's intended for golfers to be able to wait out a passing shower. Mr. Liggett commented that he golfs here every Thursday. He is always waiting around front in order to see if his partner is arriving. 1VIr. Yager commentied that he couldn't see how this could be any more than a conceptual approval in the fact that he sees no elevations or heights, no materials, and no real reference in understanding of that ramp. He likes the proposal conceptually very much; he would particularly like to see some of it leek over to the ballroom entrance in terms of this quality scenario. For this board to say that this is acceptable and then ask the next applicant to do what they've asked every applicant to do, would really be a disservice. Coming from the City of which we're members of and this is a City proposal; it's particularly odd that it wasn't asked to have more information together in the packets at tonight's meeting. He knows that isn't Mr. Deichmann's responsibility, but the architect is not here. He doesn't know if these are paper-machae windows or if they are pieces of paper on plywood to look like windows. Until the board sees something in writing saying what it is, it would be a conceptual approval at best. Mr. Zergott indicated that he would like to table this proposal until they have a complete set of plans, building materials, and conceptual drawings as to how this is going to meet up with the existing building. Mr. Yager agreed that they should either table it or give it conceptual approval so that it can move on and come back with something more definitive than what they have here. Mr. Liggett indicated that he liked the addition to a certain degree. The sad part is they are keeping the ballroom area which is this big cylindrical vault and he would Iike to see some of that brought into the new. Even if it means instead of an octagon gazebo, make it a round gazebo. Or even the octagon seating area, make it round so they are complimenting round to round. Mr. Yager suggested that round buildings cost a little more. The architect and the City should look at linking the two together to make it a more consistent facility. Mr. Zergott suggested that the parking lot side has already done guite a bit of brick work. If you're looking from_the_parking lot, this_brick. is carrying_ around already, so that side will be a continuation of the improvements. Mr. Yager indicated that W.T.W. certainly is not brand new to this whole thing and he is particularly surprised that they just ignored the whole process al] together. Mr. Deichmann indicated that the City forced the schedule on them. They were given, in his opinion, an extremely rigorous and aggressive schedule to follow. Mr. Zergott questioned when they wanted to do this. Mr. Deichmann replied that the intention is to advertise in about two to three weeks. Mr. Yager suggested that they hold off advertising until it comes through this board, and he would tell the Building Department that we can't let them do this same thing again. They are not going to build this until fall after the golf season anyway. Mr. Liggett indicated that then they would not be able to have a nice ground breaking and get the City all involved and all that good stuff. Mr. Yager suggested that they don't have a meeting in August and they could ask the board for a special meeting. Mr. Liggett indicated that since they are just a board of recommendations they could bypass us completely and go on to Council. Mr. Yager suggested that he would like to have their opinions to be brought to the attention of B.Z.D. and Council. Mr. Zergott suggested that someone make that motion and they will set up a special meeting. M. Yager motioned to table Springvale C'rolf Course of 5871 Canterbury Rd. with the following conditions. 1) The board likes the direction of the project, but has not enough information to make any decisions on it. 2) The architect should be present at the next meeting and bring with them a landscaping plan, the existing elevations of the entire facility with some thought towards the ballroom entrance and tying in the pieces and parts of the overall facility. 3) They look at the A.D.A. components. 4) Material sheet, the application and requirements that every other applicant is asked to produce. 5) Where do you put the golf bags when you enter the facility? 6) 2