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added trees along the boundary with the apartments. Mr. Yager asked what they mean on the landscape plan by "hydra-sprayed with flowering perennials". Mr. Zergott explained it is a wildflower. W. Corsi added it goes throughout the detention basin. Mr. Zergott pointed out those plants only last for a couple of years and then it turns to Queen Anne's lace. He asked the applicant if he was concerned about that. W. Corsi indicated the development is responsible for maintaining the basin and it is part of the look of the whole development, so they would want it re-seeded as much as necessary. Mr. Zergott said whenever they have done that it looks great for a year or two and then it just goes to weeds. A perennial mix is a weed, and the heartiest weeds take over, which is usually Queen Anne's lace and thistle. Ms. Corsi mentioned crown vetch, another type of perennial. Mr. Zergott said that type is not usually in a perennial mix. That type would be better than a wildflower mix because at least it will look uniform. Mr. Corsi indicated they could adjust that. Mr. Zergott said the landscape plan does not include anything by the front porches. He said that everything loses its leaves and for 6 months out of the year you will be looking at nothing. He suggested having someone who knows landscaping design their plan. He would say an architect probably did their plan and that it will not create the type of community they want. W. Corsi said they would be able to do that. He said they would definitely want to landscape in the front where the flowerbeds are to make it look great. Mr. Yager asked if it is like a condo development where one person handles plantings or can each person plant what they want. Mr. Corsi replied that people will be able to plant flowers and such but they will not be able to go outside those beds. Mr. Zergott asked if they will landscape with shrubbery for uniformity, and plant annuals, and allow people to do their own patio areas. Mr. Corsi indicated they will be able to plant flowers but residents will not do shrubbery. Mr. Yager said when driving down Columbia to get an idea of where the entry point is, he wondered if it is where the utility drive is or where there is a house for sale. W. Corsi replied it is where it looks as though there is a utility drive. Mr. Yager pointed out there is a house on both sides of that. He said he is aware the applicant met with the residents but he asked if those particular residents are ok with the planting program. He said there are six red maples along one side, some existing trees, and four red maples on the other side. Mr. Yager said it surprised him a bit that the residents haven't asked for more in that area. Mr. Corsi said if the residents or the board wants more pines or something else, they would be happy to do that. He said they will take Mr. Zergott's suggestion and have the landscaping looked at differently and address the area of the beds in front of the homes and any other area. Mr. Yager asked how high the light poles will be. Mr. Blair indicated they will be 12 ft. high. Mr. Corsi mentioned the lights will be more pedestrian as opposed to standard streetlights. Mr. Yager said they are calling for 6 ft. high vinyl privacy fencing. He said he cannot tell from the drawing where the limits are for that. Mr. Corsi referred to the plans. He said there is one in the back that is up by I-480. Mr. Yager pointed out a home on the plan and asked if they will be using existing vegetation on someone else's site plus whatever the applicant is doing with the detention as a buffer. Mr. Corsi indicated that is right, and that is the preference of the people in that area. He said they did not want a fence. Mr. Yager mentioned the trees in the area. Mr. Corsi said they would like to save what is there but that is not possible. Mr. Zergott asked if the apartment complex is to the north. They again looked at the plans. Mr. Yager asked how tall the apartment complex is. Mr. Corsi said they are two story apartments with balconies that front out toward Brookpark. Mr. Zergott asked if Mr. Yager has any comments on the building itself. Mr. Yager said that the proportions are a little unusual. As far as the textures on the materials, with the type of community they are going for, he was hoping for more lively ins and outs, ups and downs in terms of the architecture. He said then they could get into the alleys and the stoop culture environment that they were speaking of. He said because there is a straight line in the front porches, it is a little ordinary. He said they might consider a 3 ft. jog or something of that nature so the stoop culture can work and the units will be one cohesive piece. He added the colors are fine. He said there is not enough movement in the units to warrant the color because you sort of start and stop with the trim piece, it doesn't jog in and out. Mr. Stockman said there are ininimal jogs and as the roads got wider they had to start lining things up. Mr. Yager said he is all for the smallest alley possible. The less asphalt the better. It is more of a community. He said the engineering department has already acted on dimensions and the board will follow what they 4