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place regarding size, the number of signs and what was and was not discussed at the last meeting. Mr. <br />O'Malley suggested that the applicants are asking the board to tell them what should be used and it is <br />the applicant's burden not the boards. The applicants are to show the burden as to why they can not <br />follow code. The code allows one wall sign not two, as well as what square footage is allowed and the <br />applicant wants two signs which exceed the allowable square footage. It seems that the applicants are <br />placing the burden on the board to justify what they want. Mr. Ports questioned if the law department <br />was asking them to show the hardship. The lot is not that large and they are limited to what can be <br />done on the lot. There is not frontage on both side of the lot, which is the hardship. Mr. Kremzar <br />indicated that the applicants are requesting an additional 426.8 square feet and there is still one more <br />building which needs a tenant on the sit. This means that the tenant for the one remaining back <br />building will require variances for any signage they wish to have. Mr. Conway suggested that as the <br />site is an L shaped lot therefore, variance request number three is warranted for the rear buildings. Mrs. <br />Sergi questioned if any variances would be required if only one wall sign is allowed. She again <br />questioned which sign the applicants would prefer to have if only one is allowed. Mr. Murray tried to <br />compare their request to what other businesses around their site have. Mr. Kremzar reminded the <br />applicants that each case is judge on its own situation. Mr. Maloney suggested that if there was only <br />one sign it would eliminate variances request number 1. Mr. Murray suggested that they would be <br />happy with the one wall sign on the east wall and then be allowed to place box signs on the Lorain <br />Road side windows. Mr. Conway commented that the board would need to grant a variance for any <br />permanent window signs, as they are not allowed by code. Furthermore, the applicants would need to <br />resubmit plans as to what they are now requesting to the building department. Mr. Konold questioned <br />what the applicants would be willing to do to eliminate their first request. Mr. Murray indicated that <br />they would only place one wall sign on the East Side of the building, which is allowed by code and <br />eliminates both variance requests 1, and 2. He again questioned if they only placed one sign on the <br />East Side would the board allow a hanging sign in the window. Mr. Kremzar questioned what size of <br />a box sign the applicant is requesting for the window. Mr. Murray indicated that they would request 2 <br />box signs for the window and they would be 2 box signs 18"x 36". Mr. O'Malley suggested that the <br />commissioner tried to explain to the board that the request is changing drastically and the applicants <br />should resubmit their request, which is being drastically altered. Mr. Maloney felt that the applicant's <br />adjustment could be calculated. Mr. Conway questioned the lineal square footage on the side of the <br />building. Mr. Maloney suggested that the two window signs would equal 21 sq. ft. Mr. Murray <br />commented that the window signs would be 9-sq. ft. total for both of them. The window box signs <br />would be 4'/2 square feet each. The clerk questioned if the applicants would need to resubmit plans <br />showing what they are requesting to the building department. Mr. Conway indicated that the <br />applicants would indeed need to resubmit plans and he would then be happy to rework the figures once <br />their submitted. Therefore if the board is going to approve the wall sign as submitted tonight and two <br />(2) 4'/2 square foot box signs to be placed in the windows facing Lorain Road are not neon or flashing. <br />Mr. Murray remarked that they are not that bright at all. <br />J. Maloney motioned to grant Vitamin Shoppe of 26532 Lorain Road their request for variance <br />(1123.12). Which consists of new signage as amended and the building department will work out the <br />square footage. There will be one wall sign measuring 89.54 sq. ft on the East Side of the building as <br />presented, plus two window signs of 4-1/2 sq. ft. each facing Lorain Road. W. Kremzar seconded the <br />motion, which was unanimously approved. Variances Granted. <br />10. Second National Bank; 26642 Brookpark Road Ext.; <br />Request for variance (1123.12). The proposal consists of new signs. <br />The following variances are requested: <br />l. A 26.5 square foot variance for a wall sign larger than code permits (code permits 53 sq. ft., <br />applicant shows 79.5 sq. ft.), section (1163.24 (c)). <br />7
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