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business is open on Sunday. Mr. Farrell indicated it is not. Mr. Trapp pointed out that this past Sunday at approximately 10:30 or 11:00 am there was a car carrier on the property unloading vehicles. There was no one there from the business to receive the vehicles yet they were being unloaded. He is saying the residents need some assurance in writing that will be enforced that there are particular business hours that carriers will be in there. It does not include Sundays, 2:00 in the morning or any other time outside of normal business hours. He would like the owner to state these things in writing so that if something does happen he can go to the police or city council and say the owner is violating lus trust. He finds it curious that the building just kind of disappeared. He says that because, as he understands what has happened with this property and as he has seen it develop, all of the storm water on the property has to be self-contained. He asked the city engineer if that understanding is correct. Mr. Deichmann indicated that is correct. Mr. Trapp said part of the reason for having the inlets, the catch basin, and the huge pipes underground is only for that purpose; to maintain the storm water for a certain period of time and not discharge it into the general storm sewer system. He said there was an original plan that included a building that is no longer there. At the time that plan was made someone had to know then that the building was not going to be there. He said if you look at the sidewalk on Porter and the surrounding area, that would all have had to be re-graded to create a large basin there. If that building were to stay there, the floor of that building is 24-30 inches above the grade of the sidewalk so he doesn't see how an original plan could have been made with the building being there and grading the property the way it should be graded to contain the storm water. He is suggesting the disappearance of the building did not just happen after the fact. It was planned all along because right now the pavement is 2-3 feet below the surrounding grade to create that basin. He said the whole area had been planned out knowing that the building wasn't going to be there. He doesn't care if the building is there or not. His neighbor does because it used to block out the light. He is suggesting that perhaps there is a little bit of disingenuous talk about what was planned for the sight, which only leads him to be a little bit concerned about what will happen to the site once it is completed and in operation. He wants some assurances as an immediate neighbor of that property. He walked around the Halleen property and has looked for a building permit. They are renovating the building that fronts on Lorain and he has not seen anything posted. He is concerned about the entire operation. He would recommend that either the Planning Commission or Council gets in writing from the owner certain rules and regulations that will be adhered to with the understanding that if they are not adhered to that the residents of the area have full access to Council or law enforcement to make sure those things are carried out. Mr. Rymarczyk indicated there was a permit pulled for the project. It may be posted inside to keep it out of the elements. Mr. Trapp asked if it is supposed to be visible to someone passing by. Mr. Rymarczyk indicated not necessarily but there should be one on the job site. Mr. Spalding asked engineering about the additional paved parking that was not there before. He wondered if it will impact the amount of storm water drainage that the owner is going to require. Mr. Deichmann replied they will look at that. They will double check the area that the applicant used in the calculations. Mr. Rymarczyk said he believes it is the same area that the building occupies so he does not believe the applicant has to come back for that. Mr. Deichmann said as long as they are not paving over area that would have been landscaped, and it is simply replacing a building with parking, it is not an issue. Mr. Ken Felleisen of Porter Rd. addressed the board. He said he really appreciates the idea of green space along Porter to reduce the driveway so those carriers will not be out there all the time. He indicated when Giant Eagle went tlu-ough the approval process, it was said that Porter Rd. was not a truck route. He said trucks do go up and down the street and the residents want to reduce that traffic. He said the way the driveway was all across where the building once stood, up to the store at the corner, the snow removal was across the sidewalks. He said the green space may reduce that. Mr. Koeth asked that Mr. Halleen's son convey the message to his father, the owner of the property, so he is aware of the concerns of the residents. Mr. Farrell indicated he will relay the message to his client. R. Koeth made a motion to table the proposal with the following recommendations: Halleen Kia will have the contractor contact the engineering department to be able to access that temporary road onto Dewey and to cease and desist as far as any more trucks there. The residents will be watching to see if that does happen. They should keep the trucks on Lorain Rd. They should come in with a lot consolidation showing the easement. The entrance way into Porter Rd. should be landscaped with green space up to the point to where there is the 12 foot driveway. The board requests landscaping around the sign there as well. They would like to have the fence match the fence that is along Dewey Rd. but they would like it 8 feet high by the L-shape portion of the lot. Mr. Koeth reiterated what Mr. Trapp said as far as consideration of the trucks coming in onto Lorain instead of Porter Rd. They want the photometric plan. If there will be any other types of changes, the contractor will contact the engineering department before anything is started. Mr. Rymarczyk added they will need a new set of drawings the Thursday prior to the next Planning Commission meeting. The motion was seconded by W. Spalding and unanimously approved. Proposal Tabled. NOTE: The Mayor formally conducted the swearing in of new Planning Commission member, Shannon Hoff-Smith. 8