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in this part of the suburban area there are sophisticated customers. Mrs. Diver commented that although she is not an architect having the loading docks, residential entrance, and customers for buildings "D", "C", and "B" entering all at the same point there are going to be major safety issues. There are going to be pedestrians coming and going to the entrances and then delivery trucks will be backing up to the same sidewalks .the pedestrians are walking on to get to the same entrance. The layout of this street will not work as not all deliveries are going to be small trucks. She called Barns & Nobles and they stated they have over the road rigs, which make deliveries. Mr. Berryhill suggested that the residents in the rear would be buffered from the sounds with the mounds and fences. Mr. Gilmore suggested that they would follow the current laws. Mrs. Diver questioned how the applicants are going to protect the pedestrians on the site. Mr. Berryhill suggested that he hopped that everyone had been taught by their mothers to look both ways when crossing streets. There is always going to be pedestrian conflicts whether it is a mall, strip center, or a lifestyle center. The way the buildings are placed on the site best minimizes the problems. Mr. Zergott suggested that the main entrance is to tight it will be a safety issue. Mr. Renzi suggested that if the main entrance was any wider it would be considered a road. Mr. Crook questioned if the developers of the site regulated the times of deliveries. Mr. Gilmore suggested that they would abide by what ever the local codes regulate. Mr. Conway suggested that good communication between the delivery companies and the stores would be wise or there will be trucks showing up at 5:00 a.m. waiting for the stores to open. That situation has to be avoided. Mr. Lipcsey voiced that although he does not have the 15-year frustration that Mr. Skoulis does, the design is focused on Target, as it is a big-box store. The area such as the greens in Strongsville the whole center is the Western Reserve concept the applicants should look at it. Target shoppers are not going to have a hard time finding the entrance he is sure of that. The residents to the north need to see what the north areas are going to look like. Complete plans are needed to see what is being brought onto this site and to get a perspective of the line of site. Mr. Berryhill suggested that the residents will not see the first floor and only part of the second and the third floor. The existing apartments across the street see more now. Mr. Lipcsey requested to see signage so the residents could have an idea as to where the signs are going, if they are lit, and what size they are. Mr. Barnett questioned if building "B" is now a three-story building as well. Mr. Berryhill indicated that they have added more residential to the site. Mr. Barnett reminded the applicants that at the Planning Commission meeting they stated the residential spaces are a loss of revenues to them. He questioned if residential was such a great loss why all three buildings are now three-story's. Mr. Berryhill suggested that it was for balance. They have heard the board and will make changes. He suggested that they have chosen to request a height variance instead of having four outer buildings. They could have had underground parking on the east side of the lot also if a fourth building was added. Mr. Zergott felt that the developers should continue in a forward motion in the direction of the first preliminary drawings. Mr. Berryhill voiced that he thought Planning Commission was looking for direction from this board regarding the building massing. Mr. Zergott suggested that as long as the :architectural design is that of the first drawing submitted it breaks up the big-box massing this does not. The traffic pattern needs to be looked into as he feels there are many problems the way it is laid out now. Mr. Orlowski questioned how far back from the street are the outer buildings being placed. Mr. Renzi suggested that the buildings would be 64-feet from the right-of-way line. Mr. Orlowski questioned if there would be any mounding along Brookpark Road. Mr. Berryhill indicated that there would be no mounds, along Brookpark road as the site is to be partof the-streetscape itself. Mrs. Diver suggested that the entrance signage be similar to that which is at the Avon Commons, it is a brick entrance but tapered with the store signs on the brick instead of a pylon sign. Mr. Renzi thought that would be a good idea. Mr. Skoulis questioned if the towers would be addressed. Mr. Zergott indicated that if the city wants the Western Reserve style the towers have to be 6