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Halleen said it would be minimal because he would still have to fill the hole. The Mayor said there would certainly be some cost savings whether it's a thousand dollars or maybe more. That could be used as seed money to attract additional funds from various organizations in the area. He asked if the commission has considered moving the building down by the Frostville Museum. Mr. Barker said he believes the moving expenses would probably double if they move the building there. Mrs. Davis said it is the wires that have to be moved that create the biggest part of the expense. Mr. Barker asked Mr. Halleen if he would get any tax savings by donating the building to the city versus just tearing it down. The Mayor said there is a tax savings. Mr. Halleen said he would get savings on the tear down. He made a couple of additional comments but they were not audible on the tape. He said when the building comes down that goes into the cost of the land. Mr. Dailey said he believes what Mr. Barker is saying is this is an opportunity to benefit twice from the same property. The first benefit is the donation of whatever the cost of the building is, and a second time if he went to sell it. Mr. Halleen said he cannot benefit twice. Mr. Dailey said he respectfully disagrees. He would be selling a tangible building, or donating personal property and once it is moved, it is gone. He said the next time he goes to sell a piece of land with no building on it, he is still going to recoup some money from the sale of the property. There was further discussion about costs and possible benefits to Mr. Halleen. Mr. Dial, the resident in the audience, said it is his understanding that in a case like this, if the building was donated to the city, Mr. Halleen would obviously have a write off on whatever the value is for the building as opposed to the land. He said in addition, he believes NIr. Halleen would also be able to take an additional charitable deduction on it. He said there could be quite a gain on this depending upon how good Mr. Halleen's accountant is. He thinks the commission wants to take that into consideration now. Mr. Lang said he would like to enter into a discussion as to where the building can be placed if they did accept it. He said they have not gotten into a discussion about Frostville and Mr. Kiczek did make a mention, "please don't go that far again," since he was involved with the move of the Carpenter house and it was a horrible move. Mr. Barker said there has always been talk of developing the triangle area and there is a strip of land between the Marathon station and the first house on Butternut Ridge. He is not certain who owns it. Mrs. Davis said that Marathon owns the land. He said another suggestion would be the front or back of North Olmsted Park. It could become an ice cream parlor, it could be used to sell hot dogs during baseball season, or there could be little league offices or soccer offices there. He said they could even get Polaris or the high school industrial art classes involved. Mayor Musial said there is also the possibility it could go along south Canterbury Road, as the city owns that strip of land. Mr. Lang said he did mention that location to Mr. Kiczek and he did not say "no," but it is getting near the outer limits of how far he would want to move it. Mr. Lang said one of his first suggestions was to put it on Springvale property and use it as a pro shop. Mrs. Davis said the reason Mrs. Martindale was at the meeting earlier is that Mrs. Davis had been speaking to Mr. Lang about the possibilities of getting input from other areas. She mentioned the Cultural Activities Commission and having something that could be used by them. It could be used for meeting rooms or as an art gallery. Mrs. Davis said they need to talk to more people to get support for this project. She added that the Chamber of Commerce ineets on Thursday at noon at the Radisson. Mrs. Lord said Mrs. Martindale has been the champion of the Cultural Activities program for many years. Mrs. Lord asked Mrs. Davis if Nlrs. Martindale had some kind of impression of the idea. Mrs. Davis said they had been talking about another space because Cultural Activities had wanted a small theater space and she had thought about Rebecca's and mentioned it this morning. She explained that Mrs. Martindale wanted to attend the meeting but could only stay a short while. Mr. Lang passed out a memo from the Building Commissioner that states there was no reason for Mr. Conway to be present at the meeting. He then referred to the memo inviting various city officials to the meeting. He recapped the suggested sites for relocating the building. He mentioned the memo from Mr. Copeland that says the Senior Center is going to be taken off the list of rent-able city properties. In which case, a facility needs to be replaced providing civic organizations with a place to meet. He said Old Town Hall is available for rent when it is not being used for city purposes. He said 5