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aChairman's directions: Mr. Koeth voiced that the nights discussions were a good start and they would like Parcel-E to gather more information and look at what has been suggested and return with complete plans. He would like the developer to start the traffic and pedestrian survey before returning and to provide the Planning Commission with publications on lifestyle centers. The Planning Commission understands that the traffic and pedestrian surveys can not be completed before returning to Planning Commission but the developer is to start the surveys. The forester is to be more involved with the landscaping and removal of any trees and a safety report will be needed. The applicant engineers are to work on the entrances and look at the sidewalks to possibly include mounding for pedestrian safety. The proposal will go to the Architectural Review Board for their comments. Planning Commission also wants to make sure the new City Planner has an opportunity to interject her thoughts on the project. He does not want to see this project side step the new City Planner. 1VIrs. Hoff=Smith requested that the new plans show 8-foot mounds with 8-foot fences as Mr. Berryhill suggested. Mr. Berryhill assured the members the mounds would be 8-foot high with 8-foot fencing. Mr. Koeth voiced that this commission does not want this plan rushed through nor does it want to see the same mistakes that have accrued elsewhere. Further discussion with applicant: Mr. Bee-ryhill remarked that he wanted to be sent for the variances needed before moving any further. Mr. Koeth assured the applicant that they would be sent to the Board of Zoning Appeals once the Planning Commission received the information they requested. Mr. Berryhill suggested that he did not want to offend the Planning Cominission but with all due respect, it was the Board of Zoning Appeals that he needed to go before as only they could grant the variances they seek. Once they receive the current variances, they require they would send the plans to their Engineering department to draw up complete/detailed plans for Planning Commissions review. They would also be willing to return to the Board of Zoning Appeals if additional variances are required later. Mr. Hreha voiced that all Planning Commission members were volunteers and they are not just talking they volunteer their evenings to make sure the proposals submitted to the city are best suited for what we are looking for. This commission is not ready to give their recommendations for the variances you seek and until we are you can not move forward. Mr. Beri-yhill suggested that if he was not forwarded to the Board of Zoning Appeals he was not sure if he could return as the owner require assurances. Mr. Yager believed the plans were a good beginning. A resident suggested moving the buildings he would prefer them where they are. The architects could tweak what you have to include something monumental at the main entrance to reflect the upscale appearance you are trying to achieve. Adding mounding along Brookpark Road would be an upscale approach and would address some of the safety concerns. The mounds could be tapered at the entrances to make sure everything is visible. Although the rendering are good the forester needs to be closely involved with this project, as a lot of land will be cleared. The applicant requires a height variance and unless it is spelled out as to what the height variance is for, once granted anything can be that height. He strongly suggested that all variances required be very specific as to what it relates to, so the City ends up with what it is seeing now. The parking garage underground will involve grills, air ducts none of those items are shown on the plans provided. There is very little information to grasp what is taking place on this site. Once the variances are granted it could come back very different from what is shown on these plans. If in fact the big box building will really look like this rendering that would be good. They are starting on a good foot and if they continue in this direction, it will work out well for everyone. Mr. Koeth indicated they wanted this evening comments addressed when the applicant return the last ineeting in November. Mr. Berryhill suggested that they could not wait until next year to go for variances. Mr. Lasko suggested the applicants already had the documentation needed to assure their tenants Planning Commission and the City was willing to work with them as preliminary plans were approved earlier in the year for just that reason. Mr. Berryhill thought 8