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Minutes of a Meeting of the North Olmsted Parks and Recreation Commission April 7, 2008 about a city that has cash on hand and one that does not. Mr. Scarl said if you build a new facility, you don’t have to worry about cap improvements. Mr. Dailey said that yes, but what the City is looking at looking at the one mil coming in year in and year out, which must be used for Parks and Recreation. That will give us some money to make some very serious improvements to our Parks all across the City and, in time, reduce that tax millage back to the voters. It has been determined that about $5,000,000 will be paid by the “Y” towards construction costs. Again, they are operating at a financial risk for the project itself. Once this place is opened, it’s up to them to make a profit or lose it. It’s not the City’s concern any longer. Mr. Scarl wanted to know how the Y would come up with its money. They don’t have that kind of cash on hand. Mr. Dailey said they would have their own fundraising issues. Obviously, they are much bigger than we are financially; he said that the late wife of Ray Kroc left a billion dollars to the YMCA nationally. That’s something they have access to; he did not know how it worked. Again, that is not the City’s concern; the Y just told the City they would be able to bring. Avon is looking at a 5.5 million deal from the Y; 5 million to North Royalton and 5 million to North Olmsted. Glen Haley is their executive director. Mr. Dailey did not think Mr. Haley would be getting into this situation if he didn’t think he could cover it. Mr. Baxter said that there will be a charge to use the facilities – he knows that he pays $720 a year for a couple to use the Y’s facilities, which is much less than what is being paid to come to the North Olmsted Rec Center. Mr. Dailey said this was absolutely true. He was trying to run some scenarios to see what someone pays to use the North Olmsted Rec Center compared to what someone pays to use the North Olmsted YMCA. It’s almost impossible because of the fact that the Rec Center is a la carte and does not have the same type of services. The best he could do was find someone aged 60 with a pool pass. A pool pass for someone aged 60 at North Olmsted is $135. To belong to the YMCA at that age is $325 or $480, whatever it turns out to be. Even a senior-citizen couple has to pay the family rate. What we propose to do is have the YMCA offer a reduced monthly rate to the North Olmsted members because they built the facility with their tax dollars. What we’ve been hearing has been a 20% discount or 30% discount; I encouraged them to look more towards a 30% discount. You still have your joiner fees which you have to pay, which is anywhere for $30 for a child; $100 for a couple; those would not be discounted as per our most recent conversation. As a non-member, you just pay as you go. Some of their programming is more expensive – pretty much doubled. Swim programs were $40; theirs would be $80 as a non-member. Some of the people would still have the opportunity, if their kids just want to swim, and Mom and Dad don’t work out or use the facility, they could still put their kids in swimming lessons. Mr. Scarl asked if, realistically, that would be presented to the people that show up at the meeting on Thursday. How do you think you’re going to be able to ask people to pay for the facility and then double their monies to join it and be a part of it. He just did not see it working. Mr. Dailey said if the question is asked, they will be prepared to answer it. The only people presenting on Thursday will be Mr. Dailey, Ms. Copfer, and Ms. Wenger. Mr. Scarl said that if the City winds up building it, it will be a white elephant; it will just be sitting there; no one will join it. Mr. Dailey said that what we’ve been told is that 20% of the Y membership at West Shore are North Olmsted residents, so he anticipates that 20% will be moved here very easily. Mr. Garrity asked what the 20% does at the Y. In other words, are they seniors that swim; is it nothing that can’t be done here? Mr. Dailey hasn’t asked that. He did know that some of the people at City Hall go to the Y for the fitness angle. Carrie Copfer and her family belong there; Donna Page 8