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Minutes of a Meeting of the North Olmsted Parks and Recreation Commission June 1, 2009 conversation. Mr. DiSalvo said, “yes.” Mr. Baxter said that one of the issues that he would suggest to the Commissioner was that certainly the kids that who will enjoy the fields will enjoy it, and they’re a united group just like the night that a number of people came. Those people who feel, like John (Lasko) and I do, that perhaps we should have open space and think that this is a good thing for the community or perhaps a few of the people involved with the soccer or more with the scouts may feel the same way but are not a united group. They’re not going to have the same voice or take the same time to talk to you as much as the people who are in favor of fencing in the park. So, if you’re going to make a decision, and you said you already made it this year, but for next year, you’re not going to get a balanced view of what to do; you’re going to hear the kids who had it this years say it’s the greatest thing and there won’t be anyone else say we’d like to have a good view. It’s not just the residents in the area; I’m speaking more for the residents near the park who use it more than others, but for the residents of the City Mr. Baxter was looking out for, not just those using the park. In fact, he questions are the people using the fence residents, or are they teams of kids, some residents and some not. Certainly he knew of softball leagues that are made up of largely non-residents who tie up the fields. Is that the case for this field as well. Mr. Dailey said that he believed it was North Olmsted kids. Mr. Scarl said that no, this year it’s a different thing, with about eight different communities within the Southwestern Conference. There will be two to three residents on each team, with about eight teams. So, our kids will be mixed in with other ones. So, instead of 17, 18, 20 kids of residents will be split among three to four teams with other people. All the residents will primarily be playing here; this is their home field. Mr. Baxter said he thinks it’s never going to change was this decision is made. Mr. Dailey disagreed. He’s faced down many noisy residents before, whether it’s before City Council or School Board or now as member of the Administration where the people from East Park, North Park, West Park don’t like it, and they won’t be quiet about it. Again, any time we get information from people whether it’s you or some little girl writing a letter, all these things go under advisement. We may find it’s a bad decision, and we may change it next year. We’ll see how it works out. Mr. Mahoney asked what’s the name of the organization that has this league, do we know? Mr. Scarl said it’s just North Olmsted High School Softball Baseball Program. Some of freshmen, sophomores, juniors going on to be seniors. Mr. Mahoney said he assumes there is no fee for the summer program, right? Mr. Scarl said they pay for fields, lining, etc. Mr. Mahoney asked how much they paid. Mr. Scarl said he did not know. Mr. DiSalvo said it’s $15 per permit and $15 per lining. Mr. Dailey noted that the fields are open to the public to use any other time to use when there are no games going on. Mr. Groden just wanted to make one comment: he learned one term this evening: “detrimental reliance,” and this is not meant to be disparaging upon any one or group of people, but it seems there were two occasions tonight where things were switched quickly without much notice. I would like to think that if we’re going to make further changes to programs that have been in existence for a long time and people have come to expect certain things, that maybe we should be more forward thinking so that we can get notice out to people that this change might be coming, and maybe it’s coming next year. Mr. Dailey said that it’s always great to be able to give that much of a notice, but sometimes in a business, which is what we are, you must react with the information that is in front of you, e.g., with how we’re charging fees. He still thinks we’re giving the swimming program away, but next year we’ll tweak it up a little bit more, then bill a little more gradually every year. As far as the park fence Page 12