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CITY OF NORTH OLMSTED <br />CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION <br />5200 Dover Center Road • North Olmsted, Ohio 44070 <br />Phone: 777-8000 Ext. 232 <br />Fax: 777-5889 <br />CIVIL SERVICE MEETING MINUTES: October 18, 1993 <br />PRESENT: Chairman Jim Hines, Commissioners Glenn Marks and <br />Lois Zolar, Secretary Tracy Ice <br />GUESTS: Mr. Gundy, Ron Wilamosky, Ronald Janetzke, John Filak, <br />Holly Kish, Sandra Stuart, Pat Scott, Rita Wingenfeld, <br />Tom Demaline,.Mike:Gareau <br />MINUTES OF PREVIOUS' 'MEETING -APPROVED AS=READ <br />APPEAL TO SECRETARIAL TYPING TES=T '(Ho:Tly Kfs,h,and Sandra Stuart): <br />I am Ron J;anetzke and I` repr'esena Ho11y Kish =and '.Sandra Stuart in this <br />proceeding:' It is `our basic position that these employees passed the <br />written exam. and then they failed the typing exam ;-�We•;have <br />documentaton'to show tha.tthese,---employees dol, not type letters. The <br />typing test, that was ,given was `,not.; on adequate typewriters. They do <br />forms, spread sheets, take:raw:data> and put it together="on forms. <br />This is not they type of `test that -was- given i The type of;', test that <br />_. <br />was given was to test your speed„' These ;fobs. ,are requiring a <br />different type of skill: We; .•t h' nk that the Cavil Service; Commission <br />should void their own =test as far as>typng goes. Maybe ;the City and <br />the Civi'1 Service Commission would •,.wwan t,,,.to use a. different type of <br />test that, p•ert'ains ;more for this type of job ' We have letters from <br />their bosses that state they are good employees <br />Mike Gareau sa d;that he wrote a letter to the CiviI Service <br />Commission m`emb`ers °;” "I't indicated that you had' to: develop a test that <br />would adequately test. for the position. I am no -t completely familiar <br />to what these t;woemployees do. Should.ther.e'be another <br />classification to, .those=;;who-en-ter data and therefore a different test? <br />The Commission has' 'done`.•."a,fairly goed,., j-ob in ,,'the past. I have to <br />listen to what everyone. -..has to"say because:I'can not pass judgement at <br />this point. - <br />Jim Hines - The question that comes up is does the city have a valid <br />job description. The job description that we received states a <br />secretarial II position not a data entry position. I feel that a data <br />entry position is totally different from a secretarial position. The <br />city's requirement for secretaries is that each candidate must type 45 <br />wpm or better to be on our eligibility list. In the future, we do <br />plan to test all candidates on a computer. <br />Ron Wilamosky - said that the secretarial <br />representative to the over all position. <br />some of the areas of the job description, <br />tasks. If a secretary changes jobs in the <br />require more typing or other parts of the <br />have not done yet. <br />job description is a good <br />Most secretarial II's do <br />they do not do all the <br />city, that new job could <br />job description that they <br />