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because he is addressing it now, and we don't have much choice in the matter because it states that if it is not covered in our Civil Service hand book then State Rules apply, but I do sympathize with you on were you stand. Mr. Branscum stated if the Civil Service grants the extra points then I will have no other choice but to seek legal council myself Mr. Cummings stated that would be fine and I would never try to advise you on that matter one way or the other, We have no other choice then to go by the State rules because there is nothing in writing in the City of North Olmsted hand book that covers extra points being brought over from another department therefore State mandate dictates procedures here. Mr. Huspaska stated how do you get the rules changed for the City of North Olmsted to address the extra points. Mr. Cummings stated that the City Rules hand book is reviewed every two years and the last time it was reviewed was June 16, 1997, and the way to get changes made in the rule book is to make suggestions to the Civil Service board, then after a majority vote is made amendments can be made to the manual and I'm not going to make changes tonight when this matter is being addressed now. Mr. Huspaska stated I feel the assessment process should be re -given the fact that the frame of mind that everyone was in going into the assessment was set, I knew were I stood and now everything is changed I'm just talking about my mental anguish. Mrs. Zolar asked if the decision on the extra points could be put off until next meeting. Mr. Cummings stated it will have to be settled tonight or it will put off the promotions even further, and I would like to thank the officers for coming in and speaking their minds on this matter. E. Cummings moved to grant Mr. Kilbane the additional 2.4 seniority points from the South Euclid police department for a total of 6.4 seniority points. The motion was seconded by J. Thomay and unanimously approved. Mrs. Rote stated the next protest is from Mr. Huspaska, Mr. Cummings asked Mr. Huspaska if he would like to speak at this time about his protest. Mr. Huspaska stated that he would like his protest withdrawn. E. Cummings moved to grant Mr. Huspaska's wish to withdrawal his protest. The motion was seconded by L. Zolar and unanimously approved. B) Personnel Director Popa has requested that the commission review the classified employees list in conjunction with the city charter. Mrs: Popa stated the reason that I wanted to come to your meeting is .1, how the Civil Service commission works as I'm new in this position as Director of personal, one of my personal secretaries Lisa Kidd is a Civil Service person yet she does not appear on the list anymore for City Hall under secretary II's only Judy Ptacek is. I didn't understand so I called Amy, and she said that in 1992 there was a lot of discussion concerning who was classified or not, Ms. Cornish stated that none of the present comity members were on the board at the time the names were removed. Mrs. Popa stated we don't have the history and I would like to clear this up as to what is classified and what isn't, I was looking at page 17 under the city charter it talks about the duties of the Civil Service. Mr. Cummings stated if he could have the page number out of the Civil Service hand book that each member would be able to read the duties themselves. Miss. Cornish stated page 32, and I'm not sure if it reads the exact same way as what Mrs. Popa is reading but, basically says the same thing. Mrs. Popa read aloud article 6 Civil Service Commission section 3 duties, it says all unskilled labor and three secretaries an assistant, a clerk to the mayors, one secretary to each director and department head which that is the case with one of my secretaries, she is an at will employee, and all part-time office help, so I couldn't figure out why this other secretary would be removed from the Civil Service list for what cause, she took the test and passed it, she was part of Civil Service then removed from the list, the questions that I have seen in the correspondence shows that there was probably some discussion concerning if your in the union can you be in Civil Service, and I see that almost everybody in the Police and Fire departments are on the Civil Service list and they are in the union, the central dispatchers, secretary I's, secretary H's, they are all in the union and on the Civil Service list and I couldn't figure out why is this going on like this, and I would like to get some clarity on this. The other thing that it talked about is removal from the Civil Service somebody needs to be notified in writing when they are being removed from the Civil Service list is that correct, shouldn't the individuals that are being taken off the. list be notified. I'm looking at your book under section 5 page 26 removal procedures is that the wrong area. Mr. Cummings stated I think that is the wrong section let me read over it